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Vera,
The question also is 'What limits are placed on such care?'
Jon Gramling
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Subject: Re: Secret wait for cancer patients
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John,
The real question is not "how long the "secret" wait is for people with no
access to health care." In many states, the people with no health insurance
through work or who are low-income have access to programs like Wisconsin's
BadgerCare. If the state chooses not to fund such a program, then those
people in that state are without options. The real question is why don't all
states offer such programs to low income and the under-insured?
I posted that article because people seem to believe that national health
care will solve all health care issues and people without insurance will
magically be covered and everything will be fine. That is not the case.
Everyone's health care costs will go up and the care we receive will be
rationed. What is now covered will not be covered because cost-effectiveness
is the #1 priority in national health care. If you are old, fewer health
care resources will be expended on you than are expended on the young. Also,
if your illness is caused by your own actions, fewer health care resources
will be expended on you.
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"In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be hand carried
down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
This took a great deal of time."
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From: John Stafford Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:58 am
Subject: Re: Secret wait for cancer patients
To: [log in to unmask]
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> VISIT AFRICAN ASSOCIATION OF MADISON WEBSITE
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> Wonder how long the "secret" wait is for people with no access to
> health care?
>
> John
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>
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 8:46 AM, VERA R CROWELL wrote:
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> > More good news on National Health Services!
> >
> >
http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Secret-wait-for-cancer-patients.5451457.j
p
> >
> > Secret wait for cancer patients
> > Published Date: 12 July 2009
> > By Eddie Barnes
> > CANCER patients are still waiting as long as a year to get life-
> > saving hospital treatment, despite ministers' claims waiting time
> > targets are being met.
> > Scotland on Sunday has obtained official hospital by hospital data,
>
> > unpublished by the Scottish Government, which shows that for certain
>
> > types of cancer, patients in some units are waiting an average of
> > 100 days before getting treated.
> >
> > In the most extreme case, an Edinburgh patient with urological
> > cancer - likely kidney, testicular or prostate - had to wait 375
> > days after first seeing the GP before getting treatment.
> >
> > In May, Scottish ministers revealed that they had met a target to
> > ensure all "urgent" cancer cases were seen within 62 days. However,
>
> > the figure does not include the thousands of so-called "non-urgent"
>
> > cases - classified as such because GPs have not flagged up cancer as
>
> > a possible cause of their illness.
> >
> > In total, some 27,000 patients are diagnosed with cancer in Scotland
>
> > ever year. But only 9,500 of them were classified as "urgent" by GPs.
> >
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> > "In the days before volcanoes were invented, lava had to be hand
> > carried down from the mountains and poured on the sleeping villagers.
> > This took a great deal of time."
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