Beth, Ken and Kyle,
My in-laws are "snowbirds" in Arizona (AZ). The one's that bring their own
RV's like My IL's contribute only to the tax base through sales tax on
purchases. I'd bet that the number who get speeding tickets and other
traffic is also pretty small. My FIL had major heart surgery a couple of
years ago while he was in AZ. I haven't talked to them about their stand on
universal health coverage, but if they hadn't had Medicare, I'm pretty sure
that they'd have been pretty well wiped out. About 6 and 8 years ago, I had
my gallbladder and appendix out, and was in the hospital for about 24 hours
each time. The bill for each surgery and hospital stay was over $10,000.
My nieces are part of the "Me" generation, but do a really good job of
thinking for themselves and thinking of their others. My older niece is in
college now, and is planning on going into medical research, focusing on
neurology.
The Humphrey quote is IMHO, very true.and was at the base of FDR's New Deal
and LBJ's Great Society. When Humphrey ran for President in '68 (after LBJ
decided not to run for re-election), I think he was defeated largely because
of a conservative backlash against LBJ's social policies, supplemented by a
fear that HHH wouldn't successfully conclude the war in Vietnam.
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:17 AM, ehthiers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> And yet, I find children learn from their parents. Ask how many over 60's
> would give up their social security and Medicare? Yet they don't want
> universal health care for all. Here in Florida, people come for the winter
> and leave, happy to be away and not pay the extra taxes to help out
> schools.
> There are communities here that don't even have funeral palors or
> cemetaries
> because people leave to go back where ever they came from. (There's a
> great
> documentary about the Villages a huge, huge, huge retirement community).
> We
> cringe with the new 55 and over communities moving in. It means less
> community in this area. Our folks who have invested in the community and
> live out in the community are a boon, the retirees in the their own homes
> lock themselves away and don't want anything to do with the younger crowd,
> helping the next generation. Everyone wants a piece of the pie.
>
> Beth t. the OT
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Linda Macaulay
> > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:29 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: run across a quote
> >
> > Kyle,
> >
> > I'd have to agree with you on that. I have had more than one
> > conversation recently about the "Me Generation" (which, in my
> > opinion is often those 35 and younger). Despite
> > technologies helping us connect to others, collaborate
> > seamlessly and constantly, it really does seem that "it is
> > all about me" as people make decisions, but yet when personal
> > responsibility comes into play, people throw their
> > hands up and say "It wasn't my fault" or "Can't YOU do something."
> > Sad...
> >
> >
> > Linda Macaulay
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 22, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Cleveland, Kyle E. wrote:
> >
> > > Ken, sadly, I think more than half Americans under 60 would
> > say, "The
> > > moral test of government is how it treats ME."
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > > Behalf Of ken barber
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:08 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: run across a quote
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Tamar Raine <
> > > hmmm HHH was not in india i guess.
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Subject: Re: run across a quote
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 8:26 PM hhmmmm...... In
> > India they say;
> > >> The moral test of a country is how they treat their animals...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Tamar
> > >>
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> Tamar Mag Raine, Commissioner,
> > >>
> > >> Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with Disabilities
> > >>
> > >> [log in to unmask]
> > >> http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > >> www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:13:26 PM
> > >> Subject: run across a quote
> > >>
> > >> "The moral test of government is how that government
> > treats those who
> > >> are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in
> > the twilight
> > >> of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of
> > life, the
> > >> sick, the needy, & the handicapped." - Hubert Humphrey,
> > former VP of
> > >> the USA
> > >>
> > >> agree or disagree, i just ran across the quote
> --
>
>
> Kendall
>
> An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
>
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
> depends on the unreasonable man.
>
> -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
>
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