Angel, you are using logic to make your point and with the 
Scriptures, man's logic doesn't always fit.  We must concentrate on 
what the bible says and not our own logic.  The Bible teaches that 
Mary is the mother of Jesus and not the mother of God.  The Bible 
never refers to her as the mother of God.  God is eternal and could 
not have a mother.  Of course, His father, the first person of the 
trinity, is eternal.  To say that Mary is the mother of God is 
blasphemy because she is not eternal.

earlier, Angel238, wrote:

>What ought I to say.  Eve was the mother of us all, and Jesus was 
>the second adam.  Mary was his mother.  As we Christians are all his 
>brothers and sisters, and as Mary was his mother why is she not our 
>mother as well.  I don't understand this objection.  As I feel her 
>to be my mother would calling her my mother  be more appropriate?
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" 
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>>I think your wording "our mother" gave the impression that we all 
>>embrace her as our mother, whereas this is not the case.  Most on 
>>the list would freely recognize that Mary had a very special role 
>>to play in the life of Jesus, but we don't hold her in such high 
>>esteem as those of the Catholic faith.
>>
>>Perhaps you also need to respect others' views on the list and be 
>>careful in how you write these things.  None of us want to cause 
>>offence, but we do all have a belief in what we see to be true ... 
>>and that's where most of us stand.
>>
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>>Carol
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>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel238" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude
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>>>I don't want to get into a debate with you as this is not what the 
>>>list is for.  I wanted to make a basic point here which I 
>>>did.  Jesus is my brother, God is my father, and as the mother of 
>>>Our Lord, mary is my mother.  I assumed you felt the same.  This 
>>>list should be understanding of all Christian faiths.  We 
>>>Catholics believe Mary to be our mother. Just leave it at that and 
>>>regard the point I was trying to make.  There had to be a reason 
>>>God chose her to be one of the first earthly enfluences and to 
>>>make one of the first empressions on the baby Jesus.  This virtue 
>>>was one of them I feel.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:37 AM
>>>Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mary is not our mother.  As God, He had no mother: as man, He had 
>>>>no father.
>>>>
>>>>earlier, Angel238, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This is one of the things for which I admire our mother.  She 
>>>>>didn't seem to fret over things.  Rather, she pondered in her 
>>>>>heart what was meant by occurances and their significance.  This 
>>>>>is one of the many reasons God in his infinite wisdom chose her 
>>>>>to be the mother of our blessed Lord. This is an virtue we would 
>>>>>do well to emulate. It would save us much unwelcome stress, and 
>>>>>would fill us with much Pease.  I have fallen short many times 
>>>>>of this.  Each time our Lord brings me through a crisis safely, 
>>>>>I vow to practice this virtue and to allow him to take care of 
>>>>>the troubling situations in my life which beset me. Perhaps this 
>>>>>will be my new years resolution.  I, however, shall just 
>>>>>continue to try till it happens for me.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:09 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kathy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, that's good to know I'm not alone, haw.  Strange you should mention
>>>>>>Mary.  I was thinking of the birth of Christ during Christmas, of course,
>>>>>>but that took me, for some reason, to thinking about Mary and 
>>>>>>how courageous
>>>>>>she must have been when Gabriel appeared to her and gave her 
>>>>>>the news. Then
>>>>>>my mind suddenly jumped to the cross and how it must have torn 
>>>>>>her heart out
>>>>>>to see her own son hanging naked on the cross while at the same time,
>>>>>>knowing it was for her sins, too.  Jesus telling John to take 
>>>>>>care of her is
>>>>>>so powerful to me whenever I think about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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