Hi Tom,
Thanks, for some reason when I wrote the message last night I couldn't think 
of that name.
Thanks for the information.
I am  looking at Schools to go back to get a new dog guide.  I heard that 
Guide dogs can down load all there lectures on the Victor Stream.
So that is one reason I am interested in one.  Like I said I haven't made up 
my mind which school I will go to but if I go to GDB then that would be 
helpful.
Bill Deatherage