Hi Steve and all
I think these are really interesting survey results even though they
wind up being data and hard to draw firm conclusions from. My beef is
that I always, always, always like to see n's as well as percentages.
There was one question I saw about software version, but i did not see
anything about geography by state or by urban / rural or by operating
system version or kind of connection (high-speed or dial-up.)
My other general comment is that besides computers and software
versions, it can be important to try to keep up on what is happening
about telecommunications laws, access, pricing in one's state.
Sometimes states have been able to make telecommunications companies do
things to reach underserved communities as a condition of desired
access to lucrative mainstream markets.
DoreneC
Best
Dorene Cornwell
Seattle WA
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] screen reader users' favorite and most avoided
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I looked at, then participated in, this survey as posted. I think the
survey was missing one important question: "How up-to-date is your
technology?" One of the hardest parts of the constantly changing
technoworld is keeping up with the constant upgrades required to meet
the needs of many different types of users. As Ted stated, even the
most newly upgraded (or purchased) machines have problems but the older
the technology the more difficulty access becomes.
As an advocate within the low income community, I have found
inaccessibility isn't just a problem for blind folk, there is
inaccessibility created by the simple inability to continually purchase
new software or hardware. This is an industry issue. Here in Maine
with a significant number of the rural population only having dial-up
service (or very slow DSL) PDF is often a painful or impossible
download. The continuing need for infrastructure and personal upgrades
may soon get the industry into trouble: economics of replacements are
now being felt by small businesses and "middle class" members. In many
cases, real accessibility means having money to spend.
posting from Emma's Family Farm Windsor Maine; Steve Hoad
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:22:40 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] screen reader users' favorite and most
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> Hi to all.
>
> David:
> I'm sorry but I beg to differ with your analysis. I think the
survey results sheds light on a couple of issues.
>
> 1) The concern about the use of the macromedia Flash player. Not
only are many of the buttons on the player unmarked, but I have visited
sites (such as http://radiotime.com ) where individu
al pages with Flash
content have caused JAWS to slow down or completely stop while manually
reading through the page (and I have the most recent installation of
JAWS 10 with the latest updates installed on my system).
>
> 2) The question of Facebook. As the survey writers note, more
respondents avoided using Facebook than used it, and those that did use
Facebook (see comments below results) found it difficult to use at best.
>
> Finally, I didn't see anything in the survey's results putting
down the Macintosh computer or its users, and I would like you to
explain why you thought the survey results did.
>
> Ted
> ---- David Poehlman
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > all this survey shows is that people can fill in surveys. the
answers
> > are all over the map and perhaps serve as anecdotal info but
I would
> > not draw any hard conclusions. The self rating here is a dead
give
> > away. I would not dare to rate my screen reader proficiency
for
> > instance, that would be for someone to evaluate. There is
also some
> > interesting contradictory info in here and the disparaging
slap at the
> > mac community is totally uncalled for.
> >
> > I remember when the survey was offered, I looked at it and
wondered
> > what could possibly come out of it tha we could gain from.
> >
> &g
t; On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Senk, Mark J. (CDC/NIOSH/NPPTL)
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > WebAIM publish screen reader users' favorite and most avoided
websites:
> >
> > http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey/#websites
> >
> >
> > I found the above on twitter - visit me at:
> > www.twitter.com/marksenk
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