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"Ron Hoggan, Ed. D." <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:35:25 -0700
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Hi Ken, Robert, and Inci,

Is it so difficult to allow others to express their zero carb perspective?
The comment: "after many warnings about its danger to bone health, etc."
suggests that the issue is one of intolerance rather than anyone
"monopolizing" the list. 

You could, of course, start another listserv, but why not debate the issues
instead of expressing intolerance?   You might also have a look at the other
side of the issue and grant that there may be some merit in it. For
instance, if bone health is such an issue in zero carb, why didn't
Stefansson and Anderson notice any evidence of bone disease among the Inuit
during their years of careful observation in the Arctic? Further, a small
number of children, after years of following a ketogenic diet for cancer or
epilepsy, have not been reported to experience compromised bone health
despite careful observation.  There are even some members of this listserv
who have spent years on a zero carb diet. I'd be interested in hearing if
any of them has also monitored their bone density or had any indication of
bone weakness, pain, or disease.

On the other hand, many vegetarians from some parts of India (where there is
abundant sunlight for making vitamin D) show clear signs of osteopenia and
osteoporosis. According to the received wisdom you tout, their blood should
not need the bone calcium to buffer acidity due to meat consumption. What
has caused their compromised bone health?

There are, of course, many other factors involved in the examples mentioned
above, but they do offer compelling counter-examples for the speculative
perspective that excessive calcium is leeched from the bones to buffer
acidity caused by excessive meat consumption.  I'm very skeptical of this
perspective, but I'm open to looking at your evidence, data, and arguments.
I may continue to hold the opinion I started with but I may not.  

Nobody has all the answers. I, too, can get pretty dogmatic about some of
the stuff I think I know but discussion and debate often lead me to an
improved understanding. 

Best Wishes, 
Ron

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