The FT-450 does, and it's frequency only. Absolutely nothing else. I can
tell mode by listening to the noise, but I'd want more than just frequency,
especially with a radio like that with a lot more in the menu than is
necessary.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: DSP of the Icom 7000
> John,
>
> I heard somewhere that one of the new breed of Yaesus has a built-in
> speech
> board, but I can't remember where I heard it, and don't even know if it
> was
> accurate. Even if it's true, I don't know how much it speaks. Too bad,
> because a good speech board could be very beneficial not only to blind
> people, but to drivers who want to operate their radios in the car. I've
> never understood why manufacturers didn't give more thought to designing
> their radios with the mobile operator in mind.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 15:38
> Subject: Re: DSP of the Icom 7000
>
>
>>I said Icoms about 10 or 15 years ago, the last 10 years or so they sound
>> pretty good. The 751 wasn't too bad, 765 and 761 were pretty good
>> sounding,
>> but for the most part, anything before the 756, 746, and that run, I'd
>> rather not hear if I can help it.
>> They're far behind kenwood though, only kenwoods I hear that really don't
>> sound overly great on the air are some TS-140's and I'm not sure why,
>> some
>> are good, others are ear splittingly narrow.
>> I didn't know yaesu had any accessibility at all, even some to sighted
>> people with their menus. I know a lot of people who can see who got rid
>> of
>> them because of the menus in the newer radios, not to mention the lack of
>> quality control.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: DSP of the Icom 7000
>>
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Actually,there are some pretty good-sounding Icoms, such as the 751A and
>>> the
>>> 756 Pro-3. Still, though, nothing beats the audio quality of Kenwood
>>> transmitters. I tend to look at the big three brands this way:
>>> Yaesu has all the right whistles and bells, but their quality control is
>>> somewhat lacking, and so is accessibility.
>>> Icom has the best receivers, and often leads with innovative technology,
>>> but
>>> their transmit audio leaves something to be desired (except for the
>>> cases
>>> mentioned above). And, their accessibility is definitely not where it
>>> should be.
>>> Kenwood wins the prize for accessibility, as well as excellent audio,
>>> but
>>> their receivers are ho-hum. I've heard mixed reports about the 2000,
>>> though. Depends on what band you want.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 14:04
>>> Subject: Re: DSP of the Icom 7000
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's why the jokes about icom standing for "I can only monitor." are
>>>> around though I think that was more true back when they had the
>>>> horrible
>>>> tinny audio of 10-15 years ago. High end radios were good sounding but
>>>> that
>>>> was it. I may try an icom radio in the house here someday but for now,
>>>> I'm
>>>> very happy with my Kenwoods. I'm just a bit concerned that they may be
>>>> out
>>>> of ham radio when I'm ready for a new radio. My TS-2000 is only 1 year
>>>> old
>>>> though so that's a long way off, and on my budget maybe longer than it
>>>> should be.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: DSP of the Icom 7000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Phil,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always thought that Icom makes some of the best receivers around,
>>>>> not
>>>>> only for their excellent dynamic range, but for their sensitivity and
>>>>> low
>>>>> noise. And, from what you say, good DSP and filtering makes them even
>>>>> better. I just wish Icom would make their radios a bit more friendly
>>>>> for
>>>>> those of us who can't read the damned display.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 13:20
>>>>> Subject: DSP of the Icom 7000
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been doing a lot of listening and experimenting with
>>>>>> the Icom 7000 so that when I begin making contacts, I'll be
>>>>>> familiar enough with the radio to make adjustments on the fly
>>>>>> without having to screw things up. Lately, I have been testing
>>>>>> the Digital Signal Processing feature in conjunction with the
>>>>>> crystal filtering and tuneable twin pass band filters. I keep
>>>>>> wondering if it is my imagination if what I am hearing is due to
>>>>>> the sensitivity of the radio or band conditions. Let me explain.
>>>>>> I have used this same R7 I have current hooked up to the Icom 7000
>>>>>> for many years and on three different radios. I have never heard,
>>>>>> nor worked, Europe on 40 meters using this vertical. I could hear
>>>>>> them faintly but they were not workable. I never heard New
>>>>>> Zealand at 9:30 in the evening. I never heard Japan at 9:30 in
>>>>>> the evening. I never ever heard Europe at my sunset hour but I
>>>>>> am, in fact, hearing all these places with the 7000 transceiver
>>>>>> now. I have line noise that goes from S2 to S9 on 40 meters and,
>>>>>> of course, this is the biggest disadvantage with any vertical.
>>>>>> They love pulling in all the noise they can find. Anyhow, using
>>>>>> the DSP and the tuneable crystal filtering, not to mention the
>>>>>> various levels of other switchable filters you can pull in and out
>>>>>> on the fly, I have been able to copy signals literally in the mud,
>>>>>> I mean, totally unable to be copied in the noise, to Q5 copy once
>>>>>> the filtering and DSP are brought into play. Tightening down on
>>>>>> the crystal filters helps shift the line noise to low or high
>>>>>> sounds but the DSP actually diminishes the noise to below the
>>>>>> signal level of the station, unless he is just too weak to copy at
>>>>>> all in the first place. I am suggesting that I hear a signal
>>>>>> mixed into the line noise with an S4 reading, for example, on the
>>>>>> signal strength meter, but I am unable to copy the signal in the
>>>>>> mud. Switch in filtering, snapping on the DSP, and only tuning
>>>>>> slightly, lowers the noise to S0 and the desired signal to an S2
>>>>>> that is perfectly copyiable. You can even then tighten down on
>>>>>> the tuneable crystal filter a little more and bring the
>>>>>> readability of the signal up more. As I said, the areas of the
>>>>>> world I have never heard with this vertical before, I am now
>>>>>> hearing and on a regular nightly bases. Since I am well
>>>>>> acquainted with the receiving capabilities of the R7 vertical I
>>>>>> have had for many years, I know it isn't just band conditions
>>>>>> because out here, band conditions ain't that hot yet.
>>>>>> Furthermore, I know the propagation of 40 meters when I had the 2
>>>>>> element beam. Then I heard ZL and VK at 9 PM at night and could
>>>>>> work them. Then I would hear Japan as early as 9 and 10 PM, weak,
>>>>>> but I heard them, and worked them, but never with this vertical at
>>>>>> these times and this includes hearing and working Europe at sunset
>>>>>> my local time. I'm very interested to see how much better my 40
>>>>>> meter rotary dipole is going to work at 50 feet compared to the
>>>>>> vertical. I already know what to expect from past experiences of
>>>>>> doing this; the difference will be amazing. At the same time, I
>>>>>> am now convinced of the superb receiving ability, sensitivity and
>>>>>> selectivity, of the Icom 7000 receiver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>> K0NX
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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