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Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:09:54 -0500
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Lou,

Are you able to pick up any SAP channels with the converter box?  There's a 
lot of speculation that we won't have the digital equivalent of SAP for a 
while once the big switch happens.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 23:30
Subject: Re: SAP channels


> Hi.
>
> I made the conversion last weekend.  I bought a Zenith converter, and even
> though I thought I wouldn't get much of anything here because the analog
> reception wasn't that great, I actually ended up with five digital
> stations.  The only thing I've noticed with mine is an occasional skip in
> the audio for a fraction of a second, but otherwise, reception seems 
> fairly
> reliable here with no outside antenna.
>
> Makes me wish I had enough roof space to stick up another mast with A
> serious outside antenna to see if I could pick off some of the fringe
> signals.  Especially in a couple of years when Canada does go digital,
> sitting several miles south of the Lake Ontario shoreline, I might see 
> some
> interesting stuff.  As it is, I see a couple of UHF channels from the
> Canadian side just on the indoor UHF loop antenna.
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 05:26 PM 1/17/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>Yeah, they figure the range with antenna will be 30 to 40% down from 
>>analog,
>>and places like vegas because of the construction of the houses in door
>>antennas will never work. I know someone who should get a signal they're
>>told but is in a hole, can't get anything but one channel. With all that
>>time they should have foreseen that problem, another thing they're finding
>>is the equipment at the TV stations can get the cooling clogged in the
>>summer with leaves and stuff real fast and it over heats. I'm sure they'll
>>fix that but  the easiest fix, I'm told, is to back the power off in the
>>summer a little with the original installs. There's a lot they didn't 
>>think
>>out but the fact is, it's just an effort to line someone's pockets and
>>nothing more.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:50 PM
>>Subject: Re: SAP channels
>>
>>
>> > Don,
>> >
>> > It could if they took the time to think things through, but there are 
>> > so
>> > many issues they didn't address.  For example, the new digital format 
>> > has
>> > 8
>> > separate audio channels, one of which is meant for description, but 
>> > nobody
>> > has yet told the manufacturers to start making TV sets and cable boxes
>> > with
>> > those channels implemented.  So, of course, the broadcasters aren't
>> > preparing because as they see it, none of the TV sets have that feature
>> > anyway, so why bother.  And nobody seems to realize that receiving the
>> > digital signals will be more difficult than receiving what we have now, 
>> > so
>> > lots of people won't have any programming at all if they're too far 
>> > away
>> > from the transmitters.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "don bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 15:42
>> > Subject: Re: SAP channels
>> >
>> >
>> >> Steve,
>> >>
>> >> Well, not sure about that.  Who appoints the fcc commissioners and who
>> >> pushes for funding.
>> >>
>> >> I do agree that it's all for the money.  The administration is still
>> >> responsible for running all such projects either directly or 
>> >> indirectly.
>> >> Sure, congress is involved too and really shouldn't be totally let off
>> >> the hook.
>> >>
>> >> How ever you cut it though, it's a big mess and I really don't see 
>> >> that
>> >> postponing digital implementation is really going to improve things at
>> >> this late date.
>> >>
>> >> Don
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:33 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: SAP channels
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Don,
>> >>>
>> >>> Much as I love to bash the Shrub, I don't know if we can blame him 
>> >>> for
>> >>> this
>> >>> one.  This tangle has been a long time coming, and I think the 
>> >>> problem
>> >>> is
>> >>> that the bean counters are driving this particular bus.  In other
>> >>> words,
>> >>> it's all about money, and the one with the biggest bucks wields the
>> >>> axe.
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "don bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 15:21
>> >>> Subject: Re: SAP channels
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Harvey,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Good point about the switch to digital.  That probably makes my
>> >>>> question
>> >>>> irrelivant.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It does seem as though it's too close now to reverse it.  Just
>> >>>> another
>> >>>> wonderful process we can thank gw bush for.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Don
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:51 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: SAP channels
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Don't I don't know much about satellite providers, but you may have
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> consult Dish network to make certain that Sap capability is 
>> >>>>> included
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>> whatever package you purchased.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As for myself, I am wondering how we will access the new digital
>> >>>>> subcarriers
>> >>>>> on cable once digital fully takes effect.  Obama and others are
>> >>>>> saying
>> >>>>> now
>> >>>>> that there should be a delay in the conversion process, but I think
>> >>>>> it
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> too far along and too much money has been invested to turn back 
>> >>>>> this
>> >>>>> close
>> >>>>> to the deadline date.
>> >>>>> Harvey
>> >>>>>
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>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
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