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Hi Ray and all,
Well, I agree with Bill, and us blind folks will  have to decide which way we want it.
I want access, (full access), out of the box!
The mac is great, but it is only 8% of the market, so that's shot!
Windows drives the market, so, until the Mac is #1, we're screwed, because most of the software is windows based only.
Will someone on this list, set up a web page, real simple, with a 1 question survey.  "would you as a blind person, want windows to be fully accessible out of the box without any 34rd party screen reader, or do you want a screen reader that costs money to buy?"
There's the survey.  So, someone run with this, and also, ACB and NFB, should put this 1 question survey in all the issues of the braille forum and braille monitor for people to answer, in their January or their FEbruary issues.  Let's get going with this.
Harry
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From: Ray Campbell <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] time for a rant, is anyone with me here?
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:41:07 -0600

Hi Harry:

I think I'm in agreement with you.  If Apple can build a screen reader
into every Mac, why can't Microsoft, with their billions or trillions,
build one into Windows?  I'm sorry, folks, Narrator is not a screen
reader although it's good in a pinch when you need, for example, to
initially set up a computer or troubleshoot things.  I'd like to see
Narrator work in safe mode so we had access to fixing things in that
mode which you sometimes have to do.

Thanks,

Ray Campbell, Help Desk Technician
Adaptive Technology Center
Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
1850 W. Roosevelt Road
Chicago, IL  60608
312-997-3651 (Voice/Relay) or
888-825-0080 (voice/Relay)
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www.thechicagolighthouse.org 


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