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I couldn't finish reading this article.  Just the description of the partial 
birth abortion made me glad I had nothing in my stomach.  How can anyone 
possibly think this is ok?  If we get a leader like this... I don't even 
want to think about it.  Also, how could one call themselves a Christian and 
vote for this... this... thing.  He's not a human if he makes into law such 
a heinous practice!  I know things are going to get worse... but my heart 
breaks for the innocence's that will be lost!  I know, abortion is still 
legal... but at least McCane wants to abolish it... I've heard!  All I have 
to say is... Lord come quickly!
Jenifer Gilley
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From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:17 PM
Subject: Article by Huntley Brown


>>>This article is from Huntley Brown - he is a fabulous concert pianist, 
>>>man
>>>of God and is a black man.  I appreciate so much his reasoning for not
>>>voting for Obama. I would like to see this article published or spread 
>>>out
>>>via Email to as many as possible.  It's good stuff!  READ & TAKE  HEED! ! 
>>>!
>>>
>>>
>>>         Why I Can't Vote For Obama
>>>         By Huntley Brown
>>>
>>>         Dear Friends,
>>>
>>>         A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent 
>>> out
>>>an email with a few points.  With the election just around the corner I
>>>decided to complete my perspective.  Those of you on my e-list have seen
>>>some of this before but it's worth repeating...
>>>
>>>         First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer
>>>support.  Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need 
>>>to
>>>explain why I will not be voting for him.
>>>
>>>         Many of my friends process their identity through their 
>>> blackness.
>>>I process my identity through Christ.  Being a Christian (a Christ 
>>>follower)
>>>means He leads, I follow.  I can't dictate the terms, He does because He 
>>>is
>>>the leader.
>>>
>>>         I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian
>>>because that's who I am.  Christian first, black second.  Neither should
>>>anyone from other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity.  200 years 
>>>from
>>>now I won't be asked if I was black or white.  I will be asked if I knew
>>>Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
>>>
>>>         In an election there are many issues to consider but when a 
>>> society
>>>gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human
>>>cloning - to name a few, then wrong economic concerns will soon not 
>>>matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>         We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, "don't judge 
>>> someone
>>>by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."  I 
>>>don't
>>>know Obama, so all I can go on is his voting record.  His voting record
>>>earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 
>>>2007.
>>>
>>> <http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/><http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/>
>>> > NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most
>>>Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
>>>
>>>         To beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as the most liberal 
>>> senator,
>>>takes some doing.  Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years.  I 
>>>wonder
>>>what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
>>>
>>>         There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100% rating. 
>>> There
>>>is a reason the homosexual community supports him.  There is a reason
>>>Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him.  There is a reason he 
>>>said
>>>he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court.  There is a reason 
>>>he
>>>voted against the infanticide bill.  There is a reason he voted "No" on 
>>>the
>>>constitutional ban of same-sex marriage.
>>>
>>>         There is a reason he voted "No" on banning partial birth 
>>> abortion.
>>>There is a reason he voted "No" on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito.
>>>These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial
>>>birth abortion.  The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
>>>
>>>         Let's take a look at the practice he wanted to continue.  The 5 
>>> Step
>>>Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
>>>
>>>         A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg 
>>> with
>>>forceps (remember this is a live baby)
>>>         B. The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
>>>         C. The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for 
>>> the
>>>head.
>>>         D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The 
>>> scissors
>>>are then opened to enlarge the hole.
>>>         E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. 
>>> The
>>>child's         brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. 
>>>The
>>>dead baby is then removed.
>>>
>>>         God help him.
>>>
>>>         There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.
>>>
>>>         Think about this:  You cannot give a child an aspirin without
>>>parental notification but that same child can have an abortion without
>>>parental notification. This is insane.
>>>
>>>         There is a reason Obama went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20
>>>years.
>>>
>>>         Obama tells us he has good judgment, but he sat under Jeremiah
>>>Wright's  teaching for 20 years.  Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. 
>>>I
>>>wonder why now?
>>>
>>>         Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled 
>>> him.  A
>>>disciple is one in training.  Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 "Go and
>>>make disciples of all nations."  This means reproduce yourself.  Teach
>>>people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you
>>>believe etc.
>>>
>>>         The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
>>>
>>>         Would you support a White President who went to a church which 
>>> has
>>>tenets that said they have a
>>>         1. Commitment to the White Community
>>>         2. Commitment to the White Family
>>>         3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
>>>         4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired 
>>> skills
>>>available to the White Community.
>>>         5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources 
>>> for
>>>Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
>>>         6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and 
>>> embrace
>>>the White Value System
>>>         7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
>>>
>>>         Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
>>>
>>>         Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets 
>>> of
>>>Obama's former church.  If President Bush was a member of a church like
>>>this, he would be called a racist.  Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would
>>>have been marching outside.
>>>
>>>         This kind of church is a racist church.  Obama did not wake up 
>>> after
>>>20 years and just discover he'd been going to a racist church.  The TRUE
>>>church can't be about race.  Jesus did not come for any particular race. 
>>>He
>>>came for the whole world.
>>>
>>>         A church can't have a value system based on race.  The churches
>>>value system has to be based on biblical mandates. It does not matter if
>>>it's a white church or a black church based on racial values, it's still
>>>wrong.  Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would 
>>>never
>>>get my vote.
>>>
>>>         Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal
>>>theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book "the goals of the black
>>>community".  If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a
>>>murderer, and we had better kill him.
>>>
>>>         Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to.  Does Obama believe
>>>this?
>>>
>>>         So what does all this mean for the nation?
>>>
>>>         In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of 
>>> Obama
>>>to lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment.
>>>
>>>         Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king.  First God says in 
>>> 1
>>>Samuel 1:9 "Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know
>>>what the king who will reign over them will do."
>>>
>>>         Then God says
>>>
>>>         1 Samuel 1:18 " When that day comes, you will cry out for relief
>>>from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that
>>>day." 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel.  "No!" they said. 
>>>"We
>>>want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with 
>>>a
>>>king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles."  21 When
>>>Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22
>>>The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."
>>>
>>>         Here is what we know for sure.
>>>
>>>         God is not schizophrenic
>>>
>>>         He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote 
>>> for
>>>McCain.  As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot 
>>>stand,
>>>so obviously many people are not hearing from God.  Maybe I am the one 
>>>not
>>>hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things 
>>>I
>>>read in scripture so I doubt it.
>>>
>>>         For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look 
>>> God
>>>in the face and say; Father, based on your word, I am voting for Obama 
>>>even
>>>though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth
>>>abortion.  He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court 
>>>justices,
>>>and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making 
>>>laws
>>>that are against you.  I also know he will continue to push for 
>>>homosexual
>>>rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this.  I know I 
>>>can
>>>look the other way because of the economy.
>>>
>>>         I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions.
>>>Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.
>>>
>>>         Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the 
>>> nation,
>>>
>>>         1.  Whose value system should be placed on the nation?
>>>
>>>         2.  Who should determine that this is the right value system for 
>>> the
>>>nation?
>>>
>>>         Blessings,
>>>         Huntley Brown
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         IN GOD WE TRUST!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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