I don't do that tho there was support for that on magnesium research lab. No doubt you know that the main cause of osteoporosis is dietary acid load more than low calcium intake. Acid makes you pass more calcium in urine as nine breaks down to neutralise acid. Or else muscle breaks down.
The two most unnecessary forms of acid are sodas and salt. Sodas have citric or phosphoric acid. Even diet sodas. Sodas are killers. Salt is via chloride acid pump which is kind of funny as chloride also causes concrete cancer. Salt spray rots seaside buildings. Magnesium chloride also called magnesite used to be used to level concrete floors in the 60s & 70s but caused severe concrete cancer.
Www.betterbones.com has good info on diet acid and bones and many references. A good resource.
Ben
On 04/05/2011, at 9:31 PM, Sandy Rzetelny <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Do you take calcium in conjunction with the magnesium?
> Sandy
>
> In a message dated 5/4/2011 4:59:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Todd
> Consider magnesium and insulin and the vicious cycle (positive feedback
> loop)(spiral of doom).
>
> PhD paper: A. Hanni. Magnesium and the Insulin Resistance Syndrome, makes
> this conclusion:
> 1. Magnesium deficiency aggravates insulin resistance (i.e makes insulin
> levels go up).
> 2. Elevated insulin levels increase the excretion of magnesium in the
> urine.
> 1 makes 2 worse, 2 makes 1 even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, 2 makes 1
> even worse, 1 makes 2 even worse, etc.
> Nasty, eh.
> And it is so hard to measure magnesium status. The late Prof Mannsman made
> that clear on magnesium research lab.
>
> Some magnesium supplements have problems.
> Magnesium oxide is poorly soluble. I'm not a chemist but I remember
> burning magnesium and so much energy is released. It is listed as insoluble in
> Scientific Tables. I really find it hard to believe it can dissolve into Mg++
> even in stomach acid.
> CAN ANY CHEMISTS ON THE LIST SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS?
>
> Magnesium Chloride. I think we all know chloride increases acid load via a
> renal Cl/H+ pump. Salt sodium and chloride- a lot of problems are caused
> by the chloride. Chloride will increase your acid load which is one of the 7
> Foundations of Mainstream Nutrition which are addressed by the Paleo Diet.
> Magnesium Aspartate. Asparate is an amino acid and neurotransmitter. It
> has been implicated as an excitotoxin which can stimulate nerve cells to
> death just as MSGlutamate does. (Blaylock: Excitotoxins). I've not heard of
> glycine being an excitotoxin but I think it might be a neuotransmitter so I
> would look it up or ask Blaylock if he will answer before taking it.
>
> In Australia we have a manufactured water Unique Water containing
> Magnesium Bicarbonate. This is very safe and effective. I don't have any connection
> with them, but take it myself. Mag Bicarb is not available as a powder, it
> is made by adding Magnesium Carbonate (or Hydroxide perhaps) to water, and
> then carbonating it with a soda machine.
>
> Magnesium Bicarbonate is already in solution. Magnesium Carbonate
> dissolves well in stomach acid, not sure if it is used as a supplement.
>
> I'm not an expert on magnesium, just someone who is looking for a good
> magnesium supplement.
>
> Ben Balzer
>
>>>> As a general principle, then, since insulin resistance is the engine
> of Metabolic Syndrome, it's worth spreading the word that Mg supplementation
> may help. >>
>>
>> That REALLY could explain some issues. Thanks for mentioning it. I know
> some mineral supplements are not bio-absorbable. What MG supplement do you
> use? Would any health food store version work?
>> -David
>
> There are a lot of opinions about this, but the consensus seems to be that
> the cheapest supplements, which are typically just magnesium oxide (the
> stuff that lifeguards put on their nose), are the least absorbable. Some
> sources say that Mg Chloride is preferable, and that's what's in Slo-Mag, which
> is readily available. So I've been using that, in conjunction with
> Bluebonnet Albion Mg glycinate.
>
> Todd
>
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