the one on craigslist the last time I was there and needed it, was so bad I 
eventually gave up after about 15 attempts.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: off topic computer issue


> i'll have to check that out.
> the audio captias are difficult to understand, but not impossible.  If 
> your
> used to listening to synthesized speech you can usually pick it
> out...although, sometimes I have to go back and start over and listen a 
> few
> times before i get one that i can comprehend as well.
> I do like the type that download a file, that way you can listen to it 
> over
> and over until you get it.
> this webvisum sounds great though.
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Canazzi" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: off topic computer issue
>
>
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Yes, those audio captia files can be almost unintelligible.  I am using
>> the
>> Firefox browser which is supported in later versions of JAWS and
>> Window-Eyes
>> and I use a plug-in called Webvisum.  This plug-in logs you into a 
>> website
>> and can read the captia and give you the results.  It actually reads the
>> visual captia and places it on your screen and in the Windows Clipboard,
>> so
>> all you have to do is highlight the edit field and paste in the
>> information
>> with Control + V.
>>
>> I realize that this involves a learning curve and some significant
>> adjustments.  But so far, since I had been using firefox already and 
>> since
>> installation of the plug-in is not very difficult, it has never failed me
>> on
>> a page requiring a visual captia.
>>
>> You can obtain firefox at http://www.mozilla.com and Webvisum at
>> http://www.webvisum.com.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:10 PM
>> Subject: off topic computer issue
>>
>>
>> Hi;
>> I recently received a e-mail from my son asking that I join face-book so 
>> I
>> would be on his friends list.  Well I tried but it asks you to enter a
>> password that apparently shows up as a graphic.  They graciously offer a
>> link that supposedly speaks the info you need to enter.  Apparently they
>> intentionally distort the audio so it can't be picked up with speech
>> recognition software.  Either I have a hearing problem or it is just 
>> about
>> unintelligible.  Has anyone else had a similar problem?  I haven't played
>> with yahoo much but I was left with the idea that they do something
>> similar.
>> Is there any solution?
>>
>> As for the Braille note and other note takers,  I doubt you can put echo
>> link on any of them which is a bit unfortunate.  I suspect the same holds
>> true with logging software.  I'm not so interested in echo link but it
>> would
>> be nice to use a notetaker to run a logging program.
>> Richard
>>
>>
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