To: Yero, Haruna and Demba,
                                              I'm here to add my voice to
the few people who have already expressed their desire to bring this topic
to an end. To be honest I'm put off by the negative commentary that emerged
during this debate.

Despite the fact i did called and spoke with both Yero and Haruna last
Thursday but i still want to call on you to continue the good intentions
that you have for our colleague Fatou Jaw Manneh and do away with personal
attacks and name calling.

Continuing this argument is distracting you and your readers from the real
issue of Fund raising for Fatou's case therefore, it is unnecessary.

For the interest of some readers i will vouch about what i know of your
characters. I know it is out of anger that you have labelled certain things
on one and other because:

(1) Yero is a respectable person who has demonstrated that here on these
forums time and again.He is a peaceful person who always want to see to it
that peace exist among Gambians on these forums and else where regardless of
political affiliation.

Personally, he got me involved in some issues between some good colleagues
that he feel needed to be solve for the interest of peace. And i believe a
good person is a person who wants to see other people live in peace; a
person who stand for people when in need; a person who bring unity
among people and he is one of those.

(2) Haruna is a brilliant person and has a good heart. Haruna is a person
who is always ready to share what he has with people regardless of what
tribe you belongs to.
I wouldn't mention names here but would state the facts that i have been
told by beneficiaries and what i have witnessed. I have
witnessed this Haruna sent ($2500) Two thousand, five hundred dollars
through a sarahule man in New York to two people, one in Basse and the other
in Sere Kunda. These monies, he asked the men to distribute to needy
families for the month of RAMADAN. He requested my assistance in pressing
for accountability of the money and to get to the right people. Signatures
of recipients and phone numbers were fax to him and myself. And a follow up
calls were made for confirmation.

These money was distributed regardless of tribe in The Gambia, Fullas,
Mandingkas, Wollof, Sarahules, and Jolas.  Some of them are journalists,
Farmers, non political party affiliated and political party affiliated.

Some of the beneficiaries were in detention and their families did received
the money.
So knowing about all these things, i cannot keep mute but to call for a
close to the personal attacks.


Once again Yero, Haruna and demba, let's move on.

Thank you all.
Saihou









On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 1:35 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "suntou touray" <
> [log in to unmask]> ]
>
>
>  On Fri, 29/8/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Demba Baldeh: Tribal bigot, pathological liar, & thief.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, 29 August, 2008, 3:19 PM
>
>
>
> Mr. Baldeh, and in the spirit of proper communication I encourage my
>  friends
> and fellow Ellenites who are part of the Posten community, to  forward my
> response there. I thank you in advance.
>
> forgive me for the tarry. I had exhausted my quota yesterday for Ellen
> (Gambia-l) yesterday that is why I was not able to respond to this decoy of
> a
> message.
>
> Before I treat it for you and Gainako, I have some anxiety to dispense
>  with.
> to wit:
>
> 1.You had been at pains to share with us that you are oblivious to your
> crimes against Haruna and The GDP, yet you continue to "grope in the
> dark" to
> identify your own crimes. One reason your criminal intent manifests is that
> this
> note of yours here that I respond to, you had forgotten to change the title
> from Yero's title of it that alleges Haruna to be a tribal bigot, and a
> pathetic  liar to a more appropriate title say: What could Demba have done
> to
> Haruna. I am  confident that was just mere oversight on your part.
> Secondarily,
> you
> then  proceeded to copy the note to Posten (Gambia-Post) perhaps again in
> error but  you forgot to ammend the title more appropriately. I would
> appreciate
> it if you  could share with us whether you were indeed in error in that or
> did
> you have  other intent in't. This is very significant because it was done
> on
> the heels of  our friends here and elsewhere urging a cessation of my
> refutation of Yero's  allegations against me.
> You see I happen to believe that Yero is just part of a bottom-feeder
> eschelon and that the grander plan issues from you and some others. I will
> tell
>  you
> later how I came to that conclusion. First things first. Please share with
> us if it were mere oversight devoid of sinister plan.
>
> 2. I am not sure how you identified your and Gainako's crimes as
> PLAGIARISM.
> Would you share with our friends here and elsewhere, whether you  recognize
> Haruna identifying your crimes as PLAGIARISM and if that was apparent  in
> any
> culprit note from Haruna, do not forget to share that as material
>  evidence.
> This so my friends here and I will not onerously malign you.
>
> I will yield here for now until we hear form you. I do not engage in
> debates. As I shared with Saihou Mballow last night when he placed a
> friendly
> call
> to me, I am of the opinion you may not debate anyone online. Debates are
>  meant
>
> for classrooms, boardrooms, and video-conferences. I understand you may
>  not
> appreciate this idea yet, suffice it to say Haruna does not do debates
>  online.
>
> Later my friend. Haruna. MQJGDT. Darbo. Al Mu'Umin.
>
> In a message dated 8/28/2008 12:33:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Folks,  as I promised everyone here that I was moving on on this issue,
> there
> is  need to respond NOT on the personal attacks but on the issue of
> Plagiarism
> which I take pretty seriously. It is important to put everything  into
> perspective so everyone know what Haruna may have a beef  with.
>
> In my capacity as the PRO of the GPU-USA I was assigned to draft  a press
> release prior to August 18th when Fatou's case was due for ruling.  I
> drafted
> the press release and on consultation with GPU executive, we  agreed to
> release the Press Release to the Media when Magistrate Jawo  decides on the
> case.
>
> Fatou was convicted on August 18, and the GPU  press release was revised to
> meet the circumstances of the ruling. On  August 19, there was a phone
> conference conducted by STGDP chaired by Musa  Jeng. During that conference
> it was agreed that STGDP work with GPU USA to  set up a committee to raise
> funds for Fatou. I was among those selected to  represent the GPU USA on
> this
> committee.
>
> On August 20, the GPU USA  press release was released and published by all
> Gambian online newspapers.  See links below for the publication of the GPU
> USA press release.
>
> It  was on that assignment and in my role as a GPU representative that  I
> started to spread the message to many online blogs and forums including
>  the
> GambiaL, GambiaPost, Gambia.dk/bantaba etc. Experts of that press  release
> was what I forwarded to forums. I provided a link to Gainako for  readers
> to
> access the press release. I happened to be an associate editor  of Gainako
> and therefore was more comfortable giving out that  link.
>
> On posting to the GambiaL, I happened to accidentally replied to  Haruna's
> posting which was coincidentally related to his efforts to raise  funds for
> Fatou. I should have sent a separate email to the list instead of  replying
> to Haruna's email with a similar topic.
>
> THIS IS THE BEEF I  THINK ON THIS TOPIC.
>
> The question now is, given the origin of our press  release, my postings to
> the forums and the fact that GPU USA press release  was written prior
> to any fundraising efforts by anybody, where is the  Plagiarism that is
> being
> allege here?  What material that belongs to  Haruna was used? Does an idea
> of
> raising funds for sister Fatou belongs to  anyone?
>
> Please see my initial postings to GambiaL at the bottom of this  trade.
> Thanks for  reading...
>
> Demba
>
> http://www.senegambianews.com/article.cfm?articleID=18363
>
>
> http://freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/3631/GPU-USA-P
> ress-Release/Default.aspx
>
> http://allgambian.net/NewsDetails.aspx?id=548
>
>
> http://thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1
> 259/Default.aspx
>
>
> In  a message dated 8/20/2008  3:08:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
> >  [log in to unmask]  writes:
> >
> > In  light  of the recent conviction and sentencing  of Journalist Fatou
> Jaw
> > Manneh,  GPU-USA strongly condemns the  Jammeh regime  for perpetuating
> the
> > conviction  of Ms.   Manneh.
> >
> > Fatou is currently the Deputy Secretary general  of  GPU  USA Branch. GPU
> > also
> > call on all Gambians  to rally  around Fatou and fight  for our
> collective
> >  freedom. For more  details, please see check on the link  below  for
> details
> > on
> >  the press   release;
> >
> > http://www.gainako.com/
> >
> >  Our  individual rights to opine  on the state of affairs of our nation
> is
> > under severe assault. We are all  targets by virtue of  our  open
> > contribution
> > to the debate. Today is  Fatou,  and  tomorrow it could be anyone of us.
> >
> > Help  support the fight from  a  collective front...
> >
> >  Donations can be sent to Banka  Manneh :
> >
> > For   information please contact Pasamba Jow  301-547-9573, Banka
> Manneh
> > 678-457-8777, George Sarr 678-314-6831,  Musa Jeng  404-824-0219 or
>  Demba
> > Baldeh  425-319-0884.
> >
> >  Again, any volunteers to coordinate this  in  Europe are highly
>  welcome.
> >
> > Disclaimer: These folks agreed to  release   their numbers to the public.
> >
> > Thanks
> >   Demba
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at  6:07 PM, Haruna Darbo
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >  wrote:
>
>
> Friends  and  Fellow  Forumites,
> > >  I  have been focused on   Fatou's case to its unsurprising
> conclusion.
> > >  However
> > > I   am relieved to share  these notes with  you. I plead with you to
> assist
> > >   raise
> > >  the  funds needed to repay those good souls who in  short   notice
> were
> > able
> > > to
> > > come up   with  the amount of the fine.  I echo our friend
> Pasamba's plea
> >   and
> > > enjoin you to  send your  donations to The  GPU,  GPU-USA, STGDP,
> MFWA,
> or
> > > directly
> > >  to  Fatou  or  The GDP as you desire and as is convenient for  you.
> Time
> is
> >  of
> > > the essence so  that the  generous spirits who ensured  Fatou's
> freedom
> > will
> >  > not
> > > endure  further  hardship.
> > >   Thank  you one and   all.
> > > Aug. 18th 2008. Fatou  Jow  Manneh  convicted by  the  coop.
> > >  Dear  Friends,
> > >  We at The  GDP wish to thank all  of  you who have graced
> Fatou's cove
> >   and
> > >  who
> > > have called as a show of solace and   support  to  Fatou. She
> appreciates
> > > every
> > > one of   you and has asked us to  thank you  for her. When she is
> able,
> she
> > > will
> > > personally  thank all of you  the   soonest.
> > > I want to share with you that   Fatou  has been blessed with some of
> the
> > > greatest brothers  one  could ever  hope for.  Without their updating
>  me
> I
> > > will  not
> >  > have been able to share  Fatou's plight with  you. I therefore
> personally
> > >  thank
> > > Mr. Salifu Manneh, Mr. Ousman Manneh,  and   Mr  Babucarr Manneh. We
> also
> > > thank
> > >   Fatou's chief counsel  Mr. Lamin Jobarteh and Mr.  Lamin Camara
>  as
> well
> > as
> > > the
> > >  most compassionate  Hon.  Barry Wells, US Ambassador  to Gambia. We
> are
> >   all
> >  > proud
> > > of  you.
> > >  Magistrate Buba Jawo  opined  that  Yahya brought a lot of
> development
> to
> > >  Gambia and that the  words alleged  to have  been shared with
> >  AllGambian.net
> > >  newspaper  risked inciting riots and disorder.  My  friends you
> must be
> > >  thinking what
> > >  I'm   thinking.
> > > 1. Magistrate Jawo had  therefore    concluded, prosecution's
> delinquency
> > in
> > > this  area   notwithstanding, that the  words Fatou was alleged to
> have
> >  spoken
> > >  (The
> > > interview was  never  authenticated)  in the interview  amounted  to
> >  seditious
> > > speech and revealed INTENT for  sedition.   He  lied and
> understandably
> was
> > >  afraid
> > > for his life  and  or  job.
> > > 2.  By his assertion that Yahya   brought development  to Gambia  and
> > therefore
> > > is immune  to criticism, and   unawares,  magistrate Jawo had
> certified
> >  what
> > >  we
> > > have been sharing with  you all   along; that  the case was Fatou V.
> Yahya
> > and
> > > not
> >   >  one of State V. Fatou.  There is a subtle but  substantial
> difference
> > > between
> > > the two  styles. It means  that  there  was no case of State V. Fatou
>  as
> > > offered
> > >  by the prosecution  and   therefore it should have been thrown  out
> > >    summarily.
> > > 3. If magistrate Jawo  realised and  was  confident that  Yahya did
> indeed
> > >  bring
> > >  all this development to Gambia,  would  it not defy  logic then
> that the
> > > words
> > > of a lowly  journalist  to  the contrary  would be capable of
> INCITING
> > riots
> >   >  and
> > > disorder??????? Or is it that the  learned   magistrate was  lying
> again
> > about
> >  > the premise of  his  ruling???
> > >  Nevertheless  friends, the kangaroo   court headed by a slave of a
> >  magistrate
> > > has done the dirty  deed. We are pleased   that our  other friends on
> the
> > >  ground
> > > in  Gambia assisted by other good  samaritan   citizens and
> non-citizens
> > > alike,
> > > were able to   come up  with the ridiculously  exhorbitant fine of
> >   $12,500.00
> > >  within an equally ridiculous time frame of   11/2  hours.
> > > Our task  now my friends is to  raise   that amount in the quickest
> way
> > >   possible
> > > to  repay the generous souls, some of  whom  had used  their daily
> bread's
> > > worth
> > > to  ascertain Fatou's freedom.   Any  amount will be appreciated
> and can
> be
> > > mailed    to:
> > > The GDP (Fatou  Jow Manneh  Fund)
> > > P.O.  Box   775
> >  > Lithia Springs, GA  30122
> > >  Please note if you wish  to  remain  anonymous.
> > > We thank  you all and may  God Bless  you  and  yours.
>
>
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