Wait wait WAIT, Alec, my dear!!!  Where in the world did you get that I am of the vegetarian-thinking ilk from my post???!!!  Granted, I didn't go into detail like you did, which I thank you for, due to the late hour, but I NEVER said I thought vegan thinking was right!!!  I left in my original post just to clear that up!!!  I am far from totally Paleo, as most people on here know, but not THAT far!!!  I am just here to learn and absorb and mostly agree!!!  My only regret was that I just spoke from a knee-jerk response about the Jewish issues, which I didn't handle correctly, and I have, and do again, apologize for that.  My main focus was that Christians, in "my" experience, are not vegetarians, is all.  Sorry to anyone I offended, for either the content or lack thereof of my original post!!!  

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From: Brenda Young [log in to unmask]

> OK, I am a Christian member of this group, although not nearly as fervent
as I should be, but still.  And the Bible that I READ (sorry, just > a note
back to something someone else said...yes, some of us DO READ IT), advocates
the eating of flesh, dunno where these vegans
> get otherwise, truly. It is NOT a sin to eat flesh, only in the Old
Testament, and that was just for the Jews.  I am not trying to be
> "religious" here, but I wish people would get their stories
straight.  The Bible that I read happens to go right along with Paleo, pretty
> much, don't understand why ya'all say it doesn't.  It does
say stuff about bread and manna and stuff, yep, but who knows what was all in
> it at that time.  Surely not "partially hydrogenated canola
oil", lol.  Just my small opinion at this time of night.....
 
It is a frequent claim of vegetarians that they are vegetarian for religious or
spiritual reasons.  Here is where they get their claim about the sin of eating
meat. 

 Adam and Eve were vegetarians
 
Genesis 1:29: (NIV)
  
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the
whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours
for food.

But that was just after Creation. Let's stroll over a few more pages:
 
Genesis 9:3 "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as
I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."
 
If you back up one line and read Genesis 9:2 one could argue that God
sanctioned hunting (But, of course it took government to sanction hunting
licenses):
 
"The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and
all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and
upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands."
 
However the first  Kosher Law was also issued: 
 
Genesis 9:4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
The remaining Kosher Laws were issued several hundred years later in the Book of
Leviticus, but they don't add to this discussion.

Few vegetarians get past Genesis 1:29, but if they do they skip Genesis 9
altogther and go to the Book of Daniel. Daniel 1:15  and 1:16 makes
vegetarians so giddy they just about pee their pants when they read it:

"At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished
than any of the young men who ate the royal food. 16 So the guard took away
their choice food and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables
instead."  

What is going on here is that Daniel and his buddies did not want to eat the
kings meat and drink the kings wine (the royal food) because it had been
sacrificed to Idols.  The kings guards were fearful that Daniel and his
buddies would look sickly from not eating meat (they were slaves captured by
the Babylonian King), so they agreed to try it for 10 days. The vegetarians
read this and point out with glee that they were healthier by not eating meat
for 10 days.  However, the true meaning of this passage is that God kept them
healthy and made them more healthy despite not eating meat and drinking wine. 
How do I make this claim?  Because if you read a few lines before this in
Daniel 10:
"but the official told Daniel, "I am afraid of my lord the king, who
has assigned your  food and drink. Why should he see you looking worse than
the other young men your age? The king would then have my head because of
you." 
Also remind your vegetarian friends that Jesus fed 5,000 with two fish and 5
barley loafs not beans and rice.