Try baiting them with food and drink! It has been known to work.
73, de Lou K2LKK
At 09:53 AM 8/24/2008 -0400, you wrote:
> Lou:
>
>I appreciate your thoughts and your opinion. ... I guess this isn't an exact
>science, is it? (grin)
>
>I'd do resonant dipoles, but am not sure I have the resources and climbing
>help to get that done.
>
>This is why I'm trying to find the best all-purpose compromise antenna I
>can.
>
>73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:50 PM
>Subject: Re: G5RV VS Windom
>
>
> > Hi Tom.
> >
> > Frankly, if I could get that kind of space, I probably wouldn't use either
> > antenna, but would probably go to using resonant dipoles instead. We used
> > a Windom for a couple of years in Field Day, and I frankly was unimpressed
> > with its performance. Compromise as it is, the G5RV beat out the Windom.
> >
> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
> >
> >
> > At 02:30 PM 8/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:
> >> Lou:
> >>
> >>Your thoughts are much appreciated.
> >>
> >>Personally, I thought the price for the G5RV I mentioned was a bit high
> >>too.
> >>
> >>What do you think of a Windom vs. a G5RV. I'm speaking of a Windom, as
> >>opposed to a Carolina Windom, which is supposedly different.
> >>
> >>And, yes, I'm looking for durability, plus reasonable functionality on as
> >>many bands as possible.
> >>
> >>A compromise and a tall order, for sure, but just trying to be practical
> >>and
> >>not spend too much money unnecessarily.
> >>
> >>73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:29 AM
> >>Subject: Re: G5RV VS Windom
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi.
> >> >
> >> > "Best" is kind of a nebulous term because it depends upon the criteria
> >> > that
> >> > you are using to judge what is good. In this case, it looks like his
> >> > criteria is durability, not necessarily radiation efficiency. A G5RV
> >> > will
> >> > always be a compromise antenna, regardless of who makes it and what
> >> > materials they make it out of. By picking your company carefully, you
> >> > might pick one that deteriorates quickly, or one that will last a
> >> > while,
> >> > but you are not going to find a miracle performer that will drage in
> >> > more
> >> > DX than every other antenna out there--quite the opposite. It is
> >> > guaranteed to perform more poorly than a resonant dipole. That being
> >> > said,
> >> > if getting on a lot of frequencies with one antenna is your objective,
> >> > your
> >> > space is limited, and you don't mind the trade-offs, go fore it. I
> >> > just
> >> > felt that it was good to poke a pinhole in this guy's hype and do a
> >> > little
> >> > reality check.
> >> >
> >> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 10:50 PM 8/22/2008 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >>Hi, folks.
> >> >>
> >> >>My trusty home-brew G5RV seems to have finally bitten the dust, after
> >> >>about
> >> >>8years of service.
> >> >>
> >> >>Therefore, I am thinking of replacing it by purchasing a
> >> >>comercially-made
> >> >>one, and would like to tap into the wisdom of the group regarding what
> >> >>best
> >> >>to do.
> >> >>
> >> >>I understand that the G5RV's made by a guy named Kerry in, I believe,
> >> >>South
> >> >>Carolina, have gotten real good reviews on e-ham, much better than, for
> >> >>example, the G5RV's sold by MFJ.
> >> >>
> >> >>Here's the description of his deluxe G5RV:
> >> >>
> >> >>Deluxe G5RV Antenna
> >> >>
> >> >>Very High Quality Antenna
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>WHEN ONLY THE BEST WILL DO. The standard length 102' G5RV antenna. This
> >> >>antenna covers 80 - 10 mtrs. and is superior in quality to all other
> >> >>manufacturers antennas of it's kind. Amateurs who have used the
> >> >>True-Talk
> >> >>antennas agree that they are the top antenna available today. Check out
> >> >>my
> >> >>feedback or the True-talk reviews at http://eham.net, it says it all.
> >> >>The
> >> >>antenna is made using quality materials and is manufactured with great
> >> >>attention to detail. This antenna consists of 102' of #12, double
> >> >>covered
> >> >>stranded copper wire. The center insulator was designed by WA2NAN and
> >> >>incorporates a strain relief for the ladder-line.(a weak point in other
> >> >>antennas). The end insulators are heavy duty two-way pull, double
> >> >>U -type
> >> >>and support the antenna very well. The ladder-line is 31' of 300 ohm HD
> >> >>copper-clad steel window-line, (NOT TV. TWIN-LEAD). The feeder is
> >> >>connected
> >> >>to 70' of high quality RG-8X coax and includes a silver-teflon PL-259
> >> >>connector. All connections are soldered and covered with heat-shrink
> >> >>tubing.
> >> >>This antenna comes completely assembled and ready to install. Wire will
> >> >>be
> >> >>green or blue, depending on inventory. Check out the reviews at
> >> >>http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2202. For questions contact
> >> >>[log in to unmask] . Payment is with money order, cashiers check or
> >> >>paypal.
> >> >>The shipping is via US postal Priority Mail. I use only Priority Mail,
> >> >>it's
> >> >>fast and fairly priced. Send me your zipcode for shipping costs.
> >> >>
> >> >>Price of this model $75.00 plus $ 12.60 shipping in the US. For outside
> >> >>the
> >> >>US. Send me your address Handles 1500 watts.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Does this antenna seem to be over-priced?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>My other option would be to go with something like a Carolina Windom,
> >> >>but
> >> >>I'm not sure of the pros and cons of that kind of wire antenna in
> >> >>comparison
> >> >>to the G5RV.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>I'd also be willing to consider other wire antenna suggestions as well.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>I would like to cover 80 through 10 meters, with my TS480 which has the
> >> >>built-in auto-tuner.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Any help would be appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks, and 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>--
> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >>Checked by AVG.
> >> >>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date:
> >> >>8/22/2008
> >> >>6:32 PM
> >> >
> >> > Louis Kim Kline
> >> > A.R.S. K2LKK
> >> > Home e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Work e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Work Telephone: (585) 697-5740
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>Checked by AVG.
> >>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 8/22/2008
> >>6:32 PM
> >
> > Louis Kim Kline
> > A.R.S. K2LKK
> > Home e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > Work e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > Work Telephone: (585) 697-5740
> >
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1631 - Release Date: 8/24/2008
>12:15 PM
Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
Home e-mail: [log in to unmask]
Work e-mail: [log in to unmask]
Work Telephone: (585) 697-5740
|
