Hi.

Your difficulty with already populated fields could be easily resolved with 
a small amount of scripting.  If it is the consensus that this program is 
otherwise one of the better ones for screen reader users, I may purchase it 
as I'm looking to phase out the rest of my DOS stuff and get the remainder 
of my ham radio computing into Windows based programs.

It would be a pretty easy matter to do a GetField () command, test the 
string to see if it is blank, and if it isn't, then select tthe text that 
the field contains  from within the JAWS script.  A problem like that would 
probably take less than an hour to resolve.

Getting JAWS to tell you when a station has been worked before and 
therefore fields have been auto-populated is probably possible too, but if 
one isn't careful there, you can make the thing horribly chatty.  Perhaps 
having it trigger some sort of sound event might be the best approach.

Sounds like an interesting project (although I have a million irons in the 
fire right now!).

73, de Lou K2LKK


At 04:25 PM 7/1/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>I just started using the software last Thursday for the N3FJP Field Day
>log.  I purchased the whole suite, but I haven't had time to play with
>the general log or any of the others.  Based on what I've done so far,
>using JAWS, I found that JAWS read the Call, Class, and Section fields
>fine and the Wave files didn't add to the information I got.  However, I
>discovered (partly with sighted help) that if you use the log for more
>than one band during a contest, the program recognizes a call that
>you've worked on another band, and it immediately fills in the class and
>section for you.  In one sense, this is handy, but JAWS doesn't tell you
>that.  Furthermore, the program behaves differently than most with
>populated fields.  My experience is that, normally, when you tab to a
>field, if there's data in it, it's already highlighted.  So, if you
>started typing new data in it, it automatically replaces the data that
>was in there.  In the situation I'm describing, when you type a call in
>that you've already worked on another band, class and section get
>populated.  You tab to Class, thinking it's empty, and so you type in
>the Class.  But since the field isn't already highlighted, the new data
>gets added to the data, so now you have an invalid Class.
>         I want to try figuring out something, too, with Hot Spot Clicker
>or Windows Classification to make the list of stations already worked
>come up as a list box.  In the short time I worked with the program, I
>could only access the list of stations worked with the JAWS cursor, and
>it was pretty cloodgey.
>         I'd be interested in any other experiences, pro and con, folks
>have had with the N3FJP logging software.
>
>Dave
>W I 3 Y
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Forst
>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:55 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: n3fjp
>
>
>Richard,
>
>I don't use the software but did run the demo a few years back    I
>think
>using the .wav files  is the way to go to make the program more blind
>friendly.
>
>I do use a few of the .wave files  along with  another  contest logger.
>If
>you download the files,, be prepared to fall in love with Scott's XYL
>Kimberly.
>
>73, Steve KW3A
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:19 PM
>Subject: n3fjp
>
>
> > Hi;
> > I downloaded and installed the n3fjp software.  I presume this a demo
> > and one buys the real thing yes? Secondly, I have not downloaded or
> > installed the wav files.  When using screen readers window eyes does
> > not seem to always read the names for the various edit fields.  Do I
> > need to fiddle with the color settings? Richard
> >
>
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