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> From: Paleolithic Eating Support List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Purcell
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:37 AM
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> Subject: Re: Newbie Question - Organ Meats
> 
> There are various ways to cut down on costs as regards buying grassfed
> meats, IMO:-
> 
> ....
> Go low-carb. The fewer carbs and the higher the amount of animal-fat
> one eats, the lower one's appetite is. You'd be surprised how your
> appetite drops after eating a pound or two of suet/marrow/tongue etc.,
> all of which are rich in fat. 

Only problem is, I'm very thin as it is and am currently trying to put on
some pounds (which is incredibly difficult for me while eating a near-Paleo
diet). :) Most people I've personally seen who eat Paleo and stick with it
eventually become very lean (including people I've seen only in photos, like
S. Boyd Eaton, Loren Cordain, Loren's assistant Wiley Long, Ray Audette--all
skinnies--and most photos of hunter-gatherer peoples)--with exceptions--Art
Devany and some hunter gatherers are heavily muscled or look slightly plump
(and would still probably be considered lean-to-moderate weight by most
Americans).

As a matter of fact, one of the offputting factors of Paleo is that people
look at the lean frames of Paleo dieters and decide they don't want to look
that thin themselves or assume the Paleo dieters must be anorexic or
malnourished or something. One person even said to me, "I don't want to go
totally [Paleo] because I don't want to get as skinny as I was in high
school"--which did happen to me. :) Based on what I've read, some people
here apparently are not thin, but I don't know if their diets differ
significantly from those I mentioned or not.

> 1 whole, wild-hare carcass(costs me anywhere from 7 to 12 pounds
> sterling, depending on which farmers' market I visit, usually it's 10
> pounds). By contrast, I can pay up to 28 pounds for a kilo of grassfed
> beef(ie fillet-steak) - and the wild-hare tastes SO much better, by
> comparison.
> 
> Farmers' markets are also ideal re getting hold of wildcaught raw
> seafood cheap fishmonger's. I can get things like whole, live  lobster
> at 17 pounds, wildcaught crabs for 3 pounds per crab, extra-large
> oysters at 7 UK pounds for 10 of them, a huge bag of (150?/200?) live
> mussels) for 4 UK pounds  etc.

I've been to farmers' markets in New England, New York state and Florida in
the US, but never noticed any wild foods at them--only farmed foods, and
increasingly, citified trinkets that have nothing to do with farming or
food. Sounds like you have excellent farmers' markets in the UK.

Thanks for the suggestions. The bulk buying and storage ideas don't work for
me in my circumstances right now, but maybe someday in the future. Also, I
was comparing the prices of equal quantities of meat, so if one bought
grain-fed meats in bulk it would likely be even cheaper than grass-fed bulk
meats. Comparing bulk grass-fed prices to standard grain-fed prices is not
an equal comparison.

>  "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognised. In
> the first it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, and in the
> third it is regarded as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer.

That's an excellent quote, by the way. Paleolithic nutrition is still in the
ridicule stage. When it becomes self-evident it will shake the world, as it
challenges many of the foundational concepts and cultural norms of
civilization, including the idea of the total supremacy of civilization over
"savagery."