Megan:

Ok, here's your chance to teach a college prof something:

How do you "hand code" a notepad message in HTML?

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Always willing to learn!

73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Megan McCarty" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: off topic: creating your own web page


> When MS Word creates an HTML file, the code it generates is very complex 
> and
> messy.  At least, this was the case when I tried it a few years ago.
>
> I have always written my HTML files in Notepad by hand.  That way the code
> remains very simple and clean, and more likely to be understood by 
> different
> web browsers.  I found that hand-coding HTML is not hard once you catch on
> to the basics.  I never tried anything else, so I can't say that this is 
> the
> best option, but it works for me!
>
> 73, Megan KB3RGW
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:10 PM, John Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Trust me, you don't want to do it in MS word. You can, but you don't want
>> to. That's what I was taught in an HTML class I took and I tried it and
>> while I can't remember now, I quickly found the reason. I like to either 
>> do
>> it in note pad by hand, or use FrontPage.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: off topic: creating your own web page
>>
>>
>> >    Thanks, Phil. ... This is very helpful.
>> >
>> > But, now I have to go back to a very elementary question.
>> >
>> > I thought you could just save a Word file in HTML format, right from
>> > Microsoft Word, and just import it into your personal web site.
>> >
>> > In fact, I just checked my version of Microsoft word, and, under files 
>> > of
>> > type in the "save option", I have options like XML, single web page, 
>> > and
>> > web
>> > page.
>> >
>> > Am I missing something here?
>> >
>> > Maybe this is more complicated than I thought it would be.
>> >
>> > 73 from Tom Behler:  Kb8TYJ
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:20 PM
>> > Subject: Re: off topic: creating your own web page
>> >
>> >
>> >> Tom,
>> >>
>> >> Learning the HTML coding is a lot more trouble than it is worth. 
>> >> There
>> >> are
>> >> programs to do the coding for you automatically.  However, unless you 
>> >> go
>> >> to
>> >> a server that sells you an account that allows you a web control panel
>> >> where
>> >> it does everything for you and you just fill in the blanks, you will
>> >> first
>> >> need both a domain name, which is the www address, and those run
>> anywhere
>> >> from 10 to 30 dollars a year, mine runs 10.95 per year and I own three
>> >> active domain names, and you'll need a server where the html files are
>> >> stored.  When that happens, a universal hidden address is assigned to
>> >> your
>> >> server provider where the html files are stored for your website and
>> >> then,
>> >> when anyone types in your URL, or website address, they are routed
>> >> directly
>> >> to your site.  So your domain name is unique to you and you alone
>> >> worldwide.
>> >> Now, of course, there are many dot addresses to pick from such but 
>> >> when
>> I
>> >> started many years ago, I only could pick from dot com, dot org, or 
>> >> dot
>> >> net.
>> >> You've likely heard that now they are going to just words for domain
>> >> names,
>> >> without a dot com for example, and just the word, or website name, 
>> >> will
>> >> take
>> >> a
>> >> person to their site.  A website provider, where you files in html are
>> >> stored, will run you any where from 5 dollars a month on up.  I pay
>> about
>> >> 30
>> >> dollars a month but many servers offer 5 and 10 dollar a month storage
>> >> service with maybe 50 to 100 megabytes and that is a ton of storage
>> >> space.
>> >> I use 300 megs of storage and only use a fraction of it because nearly
>> >> all
>> >> I
>> >> have are text files and text takes up very little space on a server's
>> >> hard
>> >> drive.  Graphics, lots of graphics, and big graphics, as well as audio
>> >> files, take up many megabytes of storage but now a days, you can buy
>> >> gigabytes of storage space.  There are many places selling domain 
>> >> names.
>> >> I
>> >> use buydomains.com but most internet web providers have special offers
>> >> and
>> >> can register a domain name for less money.  Many providers of storage
>> >> space
>> >> also are website designers and charge flat rates to build a website to
>> >> your
>> >> specifications.  It all depends upon how much money one wishes to 
>> >> spend.
>> >> I
>> >> think my provider.
>> >>
>> >> www.liquidneon.com
>> >>
>> >> who I have used for years, has many of these services but he is one of
>> >> thousands and thousands of providers all over the world.  You can even
>> >> use
>> >> offshore providers.  Many of those are used, for example, by people 
>> >> who
>> >> want
>> >> to spam or do business in, shall we say, less than an honest manner. 
>> >> If
>> >> you
>> >> did a google search for web providers, you'd find millions of hits. 
>> >> The
>> >> best way is going with your own provider you are using now, call and 
>> >> ask
>> >> about their web services, or with one a friend has used for awhile.
>> >> Then,
>> >> too, I use an FTP client piece of software called Cute FTP to transfer
>> my
>> >> html files from my hard drive to my web provider.  I used to do it all
>> in
>> >> FTP, that is in UNIX, by hand but now there is even windows based
>> >> software
>> >> for all that work.  So the field is wide open for whatever you want to
>> >> spend
>> >> and how involved you want to get.
>> >>
>> >> Phil.
>> >> K0NX
>> >>
>>
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