Mike Horlick wrote:
> Also, my wife has asked me... How come in Asian countries where so many 
> people rely on cereals/grains that the perception is that many people there are 
> healthier (and thinner) than those in the Western countries? 
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The questions should be...are they healthier than those in Western 
countries, and if so, why/why not? Some interesting reading for you 
regarding The China Study, etc:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/obesity/another-china-study/
http://www.westonaprice.org/bookreviews/chinastudy.html
diabetes in China/India: 
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/health/diabetes/2008/04/02/150047/India-China.htm

And, Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes is a must read. :)
> Another issue I find a bit hard to get around is the whole idea of killing. I know 
> that Paleo man had no qualms about that but of course, maybe they didn't 
> have qualms about rape,slavery,murder and other things that may have gone 
> down in history because of lack of laws, etc...
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> At least when you're eating a tofu-burger there was no violence involved in its 
> production but maybe I'm too much of a bleeding heart left-leaning liberal ;) 
>   
Former vegetarian here :) Ask yourself: when land is claimed for 
agricultural use, what happened to the animals living there? When a 
field of soybeans (or wheat, or whatever) is harvested, do any animals 
die in the process? Has agriculture in general harmed or helped the 
environment and/or the overall health of animals/people? Is it even 
possible for any animal to feed itself without another living thing dying?

Against The Grain by Richard Manning is a good read about agriculture in 
general.

PS: laws don't stop ppl from killing or raping or enslaving others, they 
just make it possible for us to punish those who do these things, 
presuming they are caught ;)
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> Another thing I'm a bit curious about... There seems to be some of you that 
> only eat meat.
> I'm wondering... Don't you miss certain food sensations? (like biting into a crisp 
> apple, eating a luscious peach, a nice bagel with peanut butter, etc...)
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I mainly eat just meat, with the occasional foray into other foodstuffs. 
Honestly, I just prefer it and feel best eating this way. I don't miss 
the GI distress and other issues from that nice bagel! I thought I'd 
miss veggies and fruit, but honestly I never give it a thought, and I am 
not a veggie hater. I just never have the urge. I'll eat veggies the odd 
time, but I don't buy them anymore bc they just hold no appeal and most 
of them give me gas/bloating. (which, incidentally, never happens on 
just meat/fat)

Good on you for researching and learning! It never ends, I tell ya...

Tracy
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