I believe you're absolutely right, Ken, but demographic change and
technology has diminished the need for the "elitism" necessitated by most of
the country being uneducated and uninformed (hmmm...on second thought, maybe
things haven't changed). At any rate, it was much easier to have 13
independent elections and then bring those results to one physical location
and let the "college" determine the winner.
Now, each time there's a census, the balance of voting power changes. That
means that my vote is of greater or lesser importance depending on where I
live. It just ain't right.
A friend sent me this video link from BBC's Channel Four. "John Bird" and
"John Fortune" are discussing the American credit crunch from a British
perspective. It's an absolute hoot! Deri, can you shed some light on Bird
and Fortune?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7659334.stm
Kyle
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> the founders were afraid of democracy and opp ed for a republic. democracy
> is in it purest form mob rule.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: How McCain plans to pay for his health care tax credits
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:47 PM
> > kyle we agree on the electoral college. seems as
> > undemocratic as having a king/queen. and as to sloppy
> > reporting i agree; there are no unbiased news agencies.
> > it's all about advertising dollars!
> >
> > Tamar
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > Tamar Mag Raine
> > [log in to unmask]
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: KE Cleveland <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 12:07:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: How McCain plans to pay for his health care
> > tax credits
> >
> > I wouldn't classify ANY news organization as
> > trustworthy, Kendall. News is
> > constantly written and broadcast with "spin",
> > from CNN's Christiane
> > Amanpour's giggling over McCain's tongue-tied wreck
> > over Ahmadinejad's name
> > (how can he be a foreign policy expert?) to FOX News
> > "Fair and Balanced"
> > bombastic, self-important Bill O'Reilly ("no-spin
> > zone" my a**!). One thing
> > I have noticed is that CNN, CNBC, MSNBC and others of their
> > ilk can hardly
> > contain their joy that the "polls" are showing
> > McCain slipping in the race.
> > I'm not surprised.
> >
> > Not only are mass media news outlets biased, their
> > newsgathering techniques
> > are lazy. Reported "facts" are rarely
> > checked. Sources rarely vetted. It
> > takes time to really get to the truth. And time is money
> > when your dealing
> > with ephemeral headlines.
> >
> > Newspapers, long at the mercy of the owner/publisher's
> > personal politics,
> > are failing, in part, because folks are tired of opinions
> > injected into
> > "news".
> >
> > We need Paul Harvey for the "rest of the story",
> > no?
> >
> > With regard to the election, I believe the so-called
> > "swing-vote" is an
> > empty pinata. Ain't nothin' inside. These
> > "swing voters" know which lever
> > they're going to pull come November 4th. They just
> > feel (rightly) that it's
> > none of our business who they're voting for.
> >
> > Oh, Ken, I agree with you re: what the bank said you could
> > afford and what
> > you knew you could afford. Predatory lending?
> > Possibly. I still think
> > it's more an issue of actuarial risk, and yes, as a
> > former employee of a
> > very large bank, I know that the Community Reinvestment Act
> > (CRA) prodded
> > lenders to carelessly loan money to folks that didn't
> > have a clue as how to
> > manage finances.
> >
> > I'm becoming more of a Libertarian every day. Daggone
> > two-party system!
> > And why do we still have the Electoral College for
> > gawdsakes? I just can't
> > equate democracy with a mechanism that would not allow a
> > straight
> > up-and-down popular vote.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Kendall D. Corbett <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Ownership doesn't matter? I've heard people
> > argue the other side with
> > > the NYT and most broadcast news organizations.
> > Don't you think
> > > Murdoch's ownership of Fox (or Ted Turner's
> > ownership of CNN
> > > influences their reporting?
> > >
> > > I acknowledge that budgetary priorities will shift
> > with the economic
> > > mess. The thing that scared me about the article was
> > that McCain
> > > would have paid for health care for those who could
> > most afford it by
> > > cutting health care for thhose who can least afford
> > it.
> > >
> > > What would you classify as a trustworthy news
> > organization?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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