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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:02:11 -0500 "L-Soft list server at St. John's
University (1.8d)" <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:02:11
>
> Your message to [log in to unmask] has been
> forwarded
> to the "list owners" (the people who manage the LOWVIS list).
> If you
> wanted to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and
> you can
> ignore the remainder of this message. If you were trying to
> send a
> command for the computer to execute, please read on.
>
> The LOWVIS list is managed by a LISTSERV server. LISTSERV commands
> should
> always be sent to the "LISTSERV" address,
> ie
> [log in to unmask] LISTSERV never tries to process
> messages
> sent to the LOWVIS-request address; it simply forwards them to a
> human
> being, and acknowledges receipt with the present message.
>
> The "listname-request" convention originated on the Internet a long
> time
> ago. At the time, lists were always managed manually, and this
> address
> was defined as an alias for the person(s) in charge of the mailing
> list.
> You would write to the "listname-request" address to ask for
> information
> about the list, ask to be added to the list, make suggestions
> about the
> contents and policy, etc. Because this address was always a human
> being,
> people knew and expected to be talking to a human being, not
> to a
> computer. Unfortunately, some recent list management packages
> screen
> incoming messages to the "listname-request" address and
> attempt to
> determine whether they are requests to join or leave the list. They
> look
> for words such as "subscribe," "add," "leave," "off," and so on. If
> they
> decide your message is a request to join or leave the list, they
> update
> the list automatically; otherwise, they forward the message to the
> list
> owners. Naturally, this means that if you write to the list owners
> about
> someone else's unsuccessful attempts to leave the list, you stand
> good
> chances of being automatically removed from the list, whereas the
> list
> owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from
> this.
> There is no reliable mechanism to contact a human being for
> assistance,
> and you can never be sure whether your request will be interpreted
> as a
> command or as a message to the list owners. This is why LISTSERV
> uses two
> separate addresses, one for the people in charge of the list and
> one for
> the computer that runs it. This way you always know what will
> happen,
> especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
>
> In any case, if your message was a LISTSERV command, you
> should now
> resend it to [log in to unmask] The list owners know
> that
> you have received this message and may assume that you will
> resend the
> command on your own. You will find instructions for the most
> common
> administrative requests below.
>
> *********************
> * TO LEAVE THE LIST *
> *********************
>
> Write to [log in to unmask] and, in the text of your
> message
> (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF LOWVIS
>
> ********************
> * TO JOIN THE LIST *
> ********************
>
> Write to [log in to unmask] and, in the text of your
> message
> (not the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE LOWVIS
>
> ************************
> * FOR MORE INFORMATION *
> ************************
>
> Write to [log in to unmask] and, in the text of your
> message
> (not the subject line), write: "HELP" or "INFO" (without the
> quotes).
> HELP will give you a short help message and INFO a list of the
> documents
> you can order.
>
>
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