Carol,
That is a good argument for the responsibility end yes, unfortunately we
are born sinners, and are imperfect our life through and always have that
risk, hopefully less as we go along and learn, but yes that is a good
point. In the end it is still a choice, there aren't too many folks in this
day and age, at least anyone in this country, who doesn't know of Christ.
Christians are probably the biggest hypocrites of all, but that is only
because we care about others and wish for them to live as God would have
us live, and yet cannot meet perfection ourselves but we yet continue.
Good thoughts you had, good perspective to see others as they see us.
Brad
At 05:06 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
>Brad,
>
>I'd tend to agree with you here (though haven't really thought much about
>the subject before); but I'm wondering if we can be held responsible for,
>say, a bad witness (basically sin in a life) which results in someone at
>least saying "Well, if that's a Christian I don't want to know!" Now, of
>course, we could argue that the person saying this is just making excuses
>... or perhaps that the person with the (seemingly) bad witness hasn't
>truly been born again. However, in writing this, I do have someone in
>mind who actually said of her sister that, if her witness was anything to
>go by, she didn't want to be a Christian.
>
>Now this is getting kind of interesting ...
>
>Thanks for raising it, Rhonda.
>
>--
>Carol
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>On Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:12 AM, Brad D said:
>
>>Rhonda,
>>
>>Personally I see it this way. God gave us a gift of freedom to
>>choose. He told us from the beginning choose life or choose death,
>>blessing or cursing. If he, himself, gave everyone that choice, I
>>don't think he holds us to a higher level of responsibility for
>>others than he does himself. Does he blame Christ for those who
>>refused him? Those who mocked and cursed him? We are told to spread
>>the good news but also to live quiet godly lives. It is amazing to
>>me when folks become Christians they feel they now have to be
>>SuperChrists and suddenly responsible for the
>>world's salvation... I once was as a youngin' in the Lord. I
>>believe we are held accountible for "our" actions and beliefs, but
>>not that of others, but that is just my personal thought.
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 04:31 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>>>Not sure....if that is the one or not!! it just goes back to what
>>>are we responsible to God for? What does it mean to be our
>>>brother's keeper? Thanks
>>>
>>>Rhonda
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:24 AM
>>>Subject: Re: is this true?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not sure if this is what she is referring to...
>>>>
>>>>Matt 11:19-23
>>>>The Unrepenting Cities
>>>>20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His
>>>>miracles were done, because they did not repent.
>>>>21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the
>>>>miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they
>>>>would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
>>>>22 "Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre
>>>>and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
>>>>23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you?
>>>>You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in
>>>>Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day.
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps she can find the passage being this is her belief? Not for
>>>>your sake necesarily in and of itself, but her own. That is to say
>>>>that its best to lay foundational beliefs on biblical references we
>>>>know rather than "I think it says somewhere in the bible that..."
>>>>plus in these little searches we gain knowledge and gems along the
>>>>way :). Brad
>>
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Brad Dunse
>>
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