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In the beginning, the HP did not shut down until it had been running awhile.  The time interval between ON and SHUTDOWN became shorter and shorter over time, until it wouldn't boot at all.  Capacitors may have been blowing one at a time?  Does that make any sense?  Perhaps he has a different problem.  It just sounds so much like mine, with the interval getting shorter.  I just thought he might could save at least part of his machine if he had it checked now, before it wouldn't turn on at all and was toasted.  But perhaps he has a different problem.

The processor did drop right in, it was securing the clamps (or some clamps, maybe it was something else) that my fingers were not strong enough to do.

AnnaSummers



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dean Kukral 
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] computer closes


Anna, your letter has some disturbing points in it.

First of all, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO FORCE IN A PROCESSOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pardon my screaming, but everyone out there needs to know that, because they can destroy an expensive component by using force!

Perhaps you had trouble pushing on the cooling fan?  Older processors slid in like pci cards.  Then, newer ones with pins dropped in 
gently.  On modern ones, the pins are on the motherboard.  But they should never be forced in or you might damage the processor.

Many computers get by with only one case fan.  It is the high-performance computers that need more.  Particularly if they are used 
in a warm spot.  Computers can get dirty, however, and overheat with any number of fans.

Jagpal's problem does not seem to be heat-related because the computer is not usually hot at startup time.  Then, when it does 
start, it runs all day.  Not typical of a heat problem.  Shutting down after it has been running a while IS typical of a heat 
problem.

Dean

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "g.Computer9f" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] computer closes


I had the exact same problem with an HP machine last year.  Started shutting down more and more frequently until I could not get it 
to boot.  I took it to a shop when it finally quit.  HP had not put ONE SINGLE CASE FAN in the machine! and it had literally burned 
up - blew capacitors.

I will NEVER buy an HP anything again.  I researched and ordered parts, with cooling being primary - got an aluminum case with extra 
room inside - three 120mm fans.  I put it together myself on the bench of a local shop, which I paid $75 just to be there if I had a 
problem.  My hands weren't strong enough to push in the processor and I asked a few questions.  Other than that - a cakewalk.

I hope overheating is not your problem, but if  you bought an HP, it is probably toast - literally.

AnnaSummers


JST wrote:
> When I start my computer, it suddenly shuts down in the process. Then
> I try it again couple of time, then it works. I keep it running all
> the day. Only once or twice it also closed when it was on and i went
> to take my lunch .that happened only twice in the last month, but
> problem at the start is almost daily now.
>
> Is it power supply or my hard drive coming down or my power conection
> ? something is wrong somewhere, plz advise
>
> I m running XP with sp2 installed, Ram is 2 gig, HD is 160 gig, a
> fairly new machine
>
> Jagpal Singh Tiwana
> Dartmouth, Canada
>
>

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