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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:42:52 -0700
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Well, Jenifer,

He is already moving back toward the center because nobody in this country
can pull off the things he planned on doing at one time.  Most of is staff
picks are old time Washington hard line liberal lefties.  So much for
change.  There is no little doubt, however, we are being conditioned for
world unity and sameness governmental rule, through centralization.

Phil.


Phil.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jenifer gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate


> I just can't stand him.  That's a problem for me.  I've seriously never
> hated anyone more than I do him!
> Jenifer Gilley
> email
> [log in to unmask]
> MSN: *no email please!*
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate
>
>
> > Probably, with all his many years of experience, but he would be elected
> > unconstitutionally, too, since he was on the same ticket with Obama is
the
> > problem.  I predict it will come down to changing the constitution which
> > will be difficult because it will take 38 states to ratify and I don't
> > know
> > if that would be possible.  Not on this sort of issue.
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "jenifer gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate
> >
> >
> >> darn... though wouldn't byden be better then obamma?
> >> Jenifer Gilley
> >> email
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> MSN: *no email please!*
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate
> >>
> >>
> >> > Jen,
> >> >
> >> > It should but then Jo Biden would become the president but maybe not.
> > The
> >> > whole thing would be thrown into governmental chaos.  They have been
> >> > wanting
> >> > to rewrite the Constitution for many years.  That is, exchange it for
> >> > another one, and that new one likely would be dictated by world
opinion
> >> > and
> >> > influence.  In other words, a new world government type of
> >> > Constitution.
> >> >
> >> > Phil.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "jenifer gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 9:37 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> so, if it proves that he wasn't born in the us, would this rescind
his
> >> >> election?
> >> >> Jenifer Gilley
> >> >> email
> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >> MSN: *no email please!*
> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:47 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Coco,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Good question.  He has at least 13 documents to date that he has
had
> >> >> > sealed
> >> >> > and will not allowed the public to see.  His real birth
certificate
> > is
> >> >> > just
> >> >> > one of those things.  He has what is called a certificate of live
> > birth
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > that is not a legal document.  He refuses to allow anyone to see
his
> >> > real
> >> >> > birth certificate and due to that, as well as the other personal
> >> >> > medical
> >> >> > documents he has sealed, people are beginning to question if he is
> >> > really
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > American Citizen.  He was adopted, after being born in Hawaii, and
> >> >> > moved
> >> >> > with his mother and step father to Indonesia.  He was allowed to
> > attend
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > public school system in Indonesia at the time for four years which
> >> > means,
> >> >> > based upon Indonesian law, that he had to be a citizen of that
> > country.
> >> >> > Thus, upon returning to the states, he would have had to go
through
> >> >> > American
> >> >> > citizenship to constitutionally be allowed to be the president of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > United
> >> >> > States.  Unless you are an American citizen and born in this
> >> >> > country,
> >> > you
> >> >> > can be nationalized but you can only serve in offices of state
> >> >> > governorships
> >> >> > or the U S Senate and not the office of U S president.  All 13
> >> > documents,
> >> >> > including his school records and written papers from Harvard
> > University
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > Columbus University have also been sealed and he refuses to allow
> > them
> >> > to
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > made public.  The question is, why?  The answer could be, these
> >> > documents
> >> >> > make reference to his true citizenship status and where he was
truly
> >> > born.
> >> >> > Senator McCain, on the other hand, turned over all such records,
> >> > including
> >> >> > his birth certificate and medical records during the primary
> > campaigns,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > Obama refused.  He still refuses.  There has been recent evidence
he
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > born in Kenya which is where his father lived.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Phil.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: "email_2coco" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:23 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: Fw: Pres-Elect Obama's birth certificate
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I'm not American and just interested. Why is his birth
certificate
> > so
> >> >> >> important? Shows you how much I know about politics!
> >> >> >> Coco
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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