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Sharon Hooley <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 6 May 2008 20:02:09 -0600
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I just didn't follow another thread that was apparently going on.  You were 
talking with Karen, and you started the thread, "swearing".  No problem.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Swearing


> Sharon,
>
> No, I knew it was going to the list and meant it to be such.  Why?  Does 
> it
> appear that it should have been private or something?
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sharon Hooley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Swearing
>
>
>> Phil,
>>
>> Was this meant to be a private message? :)
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Swearing
>>
>>
>> > Karen,
>> >
>> > It rubs my fur wrong, too, when people take the Lord's name in vain. 
>> > Be
>> > it
>> > in movies, TV shows, or even in books or print, as it were.  However, I
>> > find
>> > it much less offensive now that I did even six years ago which seems to
> be
>> > a
>> > direct result of places I have been healed in my feelings and thoughts,
>> > the
>> > lies that no longer exist in my identity with Christ, and the security 
>> > I
>> > experience with Jesus Himself.  Furthermore, many years ago, I began to
>> > carefully study the true meaning of First John 1:9 which we all likely
>> > know
>> > by memory.  The Holy Spirit pointed something out to me one day concern
>> > this
>> > verse and as I studied it for some time, I finally realized what it was
>> > all
>> > about and the meaning it has for Christians relating to sin.  Swearing,
> of
>> > course, is sin but a different type of sin for the lost than a 
>> > Christian
>> > who
>> > is born again.  Maybe I'll type a little about first John 1:9 to 
>> > explain
>> > what I believe but my hands are getting too weak to do much more typing
>> > tonight.  However, I understand your feelings about still being unable
> to
>> > eradicate swearing in your own life at times as a Christian.  Remind me
> to
>> > tell you something I did once relating to this very topic that 
>> > horrified
>> > me
>> > and made me think I would maybe even go to hell for what I said.  It is
>> > funny because Jesus set me up for it to happen to teach me something
> very
>> > spiritually valuable.  Plus, it reminded me of the sense of humor Jesus
>> > truly has.  You might very well discover, once you hear what I have to
> say
>> > and the things I point out about God's sense of humor, that swearing
> goes
>> > away due to it being spiritually minimized in your life as a Christian.
>> > It
>> > is the value we place on certain sins that causes us instability in our
>> > walk
>> > with the Lord.  Swearing isn't any different to God than adultery,
>> > abortion,
>> > murder, rape, or anything else.  Yes, that is a very difficult
> theological
>> > pill to get down.  I choke on it every time I say it, for that matter,
> but
>> > God isn't variable.  If He were, none of us would end up in Heaven.  If
> we
>> > can get to the place that we can see sin, as Christians, the way He
> views
>> > it, swearing can disappear like a puff of smoke.  It is the value, or
>> > severity of sinfulness we put on it, that causes us shame, guilt, 
>> > grief,
>> > and
>> > fear.  If such things as I just mentioned are eliminated by healing and
>> > understanding of God's nature and the identity of Christ we can enjoy, 
>> > a
>> > lot
>> > of things aren't important any more and they go away and God is
> magnified
>> > within us.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:13 PM
>> > Subject: Re: happy Luke SkyWalker Day
>> >
>> >
>> >> Yes.  I hate having to ride city buses because of people cussing up. 
>> >> I
>> > cringe when I here the gd word. Although I have to admit.  I have sworn
>> > myself.  But I hate doing it.  I think I do it becuase I grew up in a
>> > cussing house.  I am glad I don't swear like I use to though.  But I
>> > unfortunately i do slip and shouldn't.  I have fasted ice cream for 
>> > over
> a
>> > year you would think I could stop swearing.  Even if it is just once a
>> > week
>> > or so.  It still should be gone. I guess I should ask everyone to ask
> God
>> > to
>> > take away my swearing problem.
>> >
>>
>>
> 

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