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4 The Geek in your bones, Here R the specs:

PC1 = Compaq Evo 510, 2.5 GHZ, 20 GB HD,  IDE NO SATA, Mfg 2001 - 2002

PC2 = HP a1700n, 2 GHZ Dual Core, AMD Athlon 64, 4 SATA, 2 IDE, Mfg Oct 2006

Thanks 4 all your encouragement and support!

The 40 GB Drive boots Vista normally.  It shustdown normally.  Howere a restart gives a black screen!

I and many PC owners can and do live with this minor instability.  Usually in older versions of windows the pc will hang and never shutdown when attempting to restart.

You shutdown then power on the PC to restart the PC.
-----------------------------------------------------

Serendipity doo dah. Serendipity day.  And I almost wiped it with Bootit!!!

Background:

Just before Christmas, I installed a 6 User Windows Vista on the Following:
I installed it from scratch because my hal file trick did not work for my 5-User XP image
Also at this time I did not have the HP a1700n PC.  So the laptop was more recent, and, therefore, more suitable for being the master image than my vintage Compaq Evo 510.

Gateway ML3109 Laptop PC, ATI Chipset.   It ran low-end Pentium 4 speed (1.5 GHZ).

I spent some days creating a Vista image to clone PCs.  I created the image on DVD and CD media, 1 DVD for the OS (C:) and 1 CD for the data (D:).

I had promised him the laptop for Christmas and just finished it Christmas Eve.

I was disappointed when the image did not boot, neither on the Compaq nor the HP I bought just after Boxing Day, 2007.

Purpose: 

Tto Boot Vista Image of Gateway Laptop onto Compaq Evo.
Why the Compaq Evo.  Well I figured I had the files already on the flash drive. And I sought the shortcut route going straight to step 11 of Previous post!

Method:

ON Compaq Evo:

1.  Connected 80 GB HD (containing Restored Laptop Vista bootit image) as slave and booted XP.

2.   Deleted files and folders reported to be different by freediff and replaced them with the files and folders on my flash drive. All files and folders in the win directory on my flash drive were copied to the windows directory on the 80 GB HD and all files and folders in the sys directory on my flash drive were copied to the windows\system32 directory on the 80 GB HD.
Whenever I could not delete I renamed! Could neither delete nor rename hiberfil.sys but did delete pagefile.sys from root directory of 80 GB HD.

3. Connected 80 GB HD as master on IDE 1 and booted normally. 

Results:

I got black screen! Could not boot into safe mode neither!

4. I put the Vista CD in the cd drive and booted into vista repair. Vista repair ran for 20 minutes.  It said it had recovered system files.  However, I got a black screen again while trying to boot in safe mode and normally from the Compaq Evo.

ON HP Pavilion a1700n:

So I was ready to chuck it in and make a small image from scratch when I made the mistake of not getting the bootit CD in the drive fast enough before the bios attempted to boot from the HD.  My fast HP beat me to the punch!

And Quelle S U P R I S E!!!   I booted normally successfully!!
All 6 users staring at me. And everything setup seem to work even restart!

Conclusion:

Well my learned friends, it appears that repairs are done from the Vista installation CD.  And my hacking of system files forces it to repair things it would not normally complete successfully from normal usage.

Christopher C. Charles
http://drpcdr.ca
416 398 3772

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:34:49 -0800
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Booting Vista on Different PC Computers
> 
> Guesss what guys? I have proved you all wrong in the past, now the
> present and soon the future as well!
> 
> I have had some preliminary success in my experiments.
> Further experimentation is necessary!
> 
> Purpose: to boot vista (installed on an HP a1700n) on a Compaq Evo 510.
> 
> Apparatus: 1 Compaq Evo PC, 1 HP a1700n PC, 1 40 GB HD, 1 20GB HD, a 3rd
> HD drive with a functioning Windows XP installed, 1 Vista Ultimate CD,
> one 2 GB flash drive (a 500 MB flash drive will do), Freediff software
> from http://saltybrine.com
> 
> Method: Iinstalled Vista Ultimate on HP Pavilion a1700n using 40 GB HD
> Also installed Vista on Compaq Evo 510 PC on 20 GB HD
> 
> On HP PC:
> 
> Installed Vista from Vista CD onto 40 GB HD
> 
> 1. Set folder options to see all protected system files and folders
> 
> 2. In command prompt piped the output of the dir command to a text file
> on my flsah drive as follows:
> c:\windows>dir *.* >e:\win1.txt
> c:\windows>cd system32
> c:\windows\system32>dir *.* >e:\sys1.txt
> 
> 3. disabled hiberfil.sys in command prompt: as follows:
> c:\windows\system32>powercfg /h off
> Restarted the PC and observed that hiberfil.sys had disappeared from root
> directory, C:\
> 
> 4. Told windows to not use paging file and deleted pagefile.sys from root
> directory, c:
> 
> On Compaq Evo 510 PC:
> 
> Installed Vista from Vista CD onto 20 GB HD
> 
> 1. Set folder options to see all protected system files and folders
> 
> 2. In command prompt piped the output of the dir command to a text file
> on my flsah drive as follows:
> c:\windows>dir *.* >e:\win2.txt
> c:\windows>cd system32
> c:\windows\system32>dir *.* >e:\sys2.txt
> 
> 3. Disconnected 20 GB HD and reattached my 250 GB HD setup with XP pro
> SP2.
> 
> 4. Downloaded and installed freediff.
> 
> 5 Ran freediff comparing win1.txt with win2.txt and sys1.txt with
> sys2.txt.
> 
> 6. Noted the differences highligted by freediff.
> 
> 7. Attached the 20 GB HD as slave to compaq Evo 510 and booted into XP
> 
> 8. Took full possession of the permissions on the windows folder (Vista)
> on the 20 GB HD
> 
> 9. copied all the files and folders reported to be different by freediff
> from windows to my flashdrive folder, win
> 
> 10. copied all the files and folders reported to be different by freediff
> from windows\system32 to my flashdrive folder, sys.
> 
> 11. Disconnected 20 GB HD and connected 40 GB HD as slave and booted into
> XP.
> 
> 12. Deleted files and folders reported to be different by freediff and
> replaced them with the files and folders on my flash drive. All files and
> folders in the win directory on my flash drive were copied to the windows
> directory on the 40 GB HD and all files and folders in the sys directory
> on my flash drive were copied to the windows\system32 directory on the 40
> GB HD.
> 
> 13. Connected 40 GB HD as master on IDE 1 and booted normally. I received
> the following error:
> 
> windows\system32\config\system
> status 0xc000000f
> 
> info: windowas failed to load because the system registry file is missing
> or corrupt
> 
> 14. I put the Vista CD in the cd drive and booted into vista repair.
> Vista repair recovered the regiistry from a backup.
> 
> 15. I booted into safe mode successfully
> 
> 16. I rebooted normally successfully.
> 
> Now the question is: can I get an image of Vista created on the HP a1700n
> (and loaded with programs and tweaks) to function on the Compaq Evo?
> 
> That will be my next experiment!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher C. Charles
> http://drpcdr.ca
> 416 398 3772
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 17:30:02 +1000
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Booting Vista on Different PC Computers
>> 
>> Christopher wrote:
>> >I install Vista Ultimate on one PC. It is an HP Pavilion a1700n
>>> 
>> >I remove the 40 GB IDE HD from the HP PC and put it into a Compaq EVO
>> >510 PC.
>>> 
>> >Result:  Vista does not boot.>>
>> 
>> 
>> You would expect this. When activated, Vista is licensed to run only on
>> one
>> computer.  If you install it to another computer (or the same computer
>> with
>> different hardware) you would have to reactivate it with Microsoft, as
>> it
>> is not now recognising the same hardware.
>> 
>> In this case, I imagine Microsoft would regard it as a second use, for
>> which you would have to purchase an additional licence.
>> 
>> But I have no experience with activation---so I guess you should try
>> them
>> and see if you can persuade them that it is the same computer. I believe
>> they are reasonably lenient about allowing hardware upgrades. I doubt
>> this
>> situation would qualify, unless perhaps you can persuade them that your
>> original computer is no longer alive.
>> 
>> Don Penlington
>> 
>>  From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland.
>> Computer tutorials, local scenery,  and other things at my website:
>> http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html
>> 
>>                   Visit our website regularly for FAQs,
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