Ken, I saw the 1 minute 45 second. That was not whining.
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From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 10:44:48 AM
Subject: Re: Obama experience
i know there was a 15 second clip shown by most of the
networks, and there was a clip closer to a minute. i
saw the long one with the glisening eyes and the
whining. i recognize a pity party and that is exactly
what i saw.
also you are right that for a woman to cry under
adverse circumstances is not negative, but for the
president to cry under adverse circumstances may very
well be a whole different subject. i am sorry, but
she is not running for wife in chief or girl friend in
chief, she is running for president, commander in
chief. for the commander in chief to be crying and
whining is negative.
--- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Humph, just because a woman cries, it's a negative
> thing -- it wasn't a pity
> party!
>
> (and besides, she won, so it doesn't seem to have
> hurt her chances in the
> caucus.)
>
> Kat
>
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> From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:19 AM
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Obama experience
>
> > looked like a pity party to me.
> >
> > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> I didn't see the entire hilary thing, but what I
> did
> >> see was not crying! I saw hilary being passionate
> >> about the issues she says she cares about. There
> is
> >> a difference guys!
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> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:55:29 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Obama experience
> >>
> >> well Virginia, you told me something I did not
> know
> >> about LBJ.
> >> WAR ON POVERTY..LOOKS LIKE POVETY WON!
> >>
> >> WATCHING THE RETURNS, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE
> >> hILLARY'S DEMISE MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXAGERATED.
> >>
> >> sorry i can't seem to keep my fingers off the
> caps
> >> lock for some reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Virginia Perry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ken,
> >> >
> >> > As I understand it, LBJ's health was a factor.
> He
> >> > didn't want the American public to lose another
> >> > sitting president so soon after Kennedy. One of
> my
> >> > sources says LBJ had an actuarial study done in
> >> 1967
> >> > to see how long he had to live. In fact, he
> died
> >> in
> >> > January 1973, so his instinct in that was
> pretty
> >> > accurate. Of course, his party wasn't very
> >> > supportive, either, due to all the flak LBJ was
> >> > taking on Vietnam. I sometimes wonder what he
> >> could
> >> > have accomplished if he hadn't been saddled
> with
> >> > Vietnam -- if he'd been able to really focus on
> >> his
> >> > War on Poverty.
> >> >
> >> > But I guess my overall point was that
> experience
> >> > shouldn't always be THE deciding factor in an
> >> > election.> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:03:18
> -0700>
> >> > From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re:
> >> Obama
> >> > experience> To: [log in to unmask]> >
> >> > Virginia, et al,> > Carter ran in '76 as an
> >> "outside
> >> > the Beltway" candidate, and relied on his>
> >> executive
> >> > experience in Georgia. Reagan ran as an
> "outside
> >> the
> >> > Beltway"> candidate in 1980, and relied on his
> >> > executive experience as Governor of>
> California.
> >> > Clinton ran as an "outside the Beltway"
> candidate
> >> in
> >> > '92, and> relied on his executive experience as
> >> > governor of Arkansas. Johnson had a> lot of
> >> > Washington experience, and was vice president
> >> under
> >> > Kennedy, which> helped him a lot in his
> election
> >> in
> >> > 1964. It would have been interesting to> see
> what
> >> > would have happened if LBJ had run in '68.> On
> Jan
> >> > 4, 2008 5:40 PM, Virginia Perry
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > wrote:> > > Historical note: Nixon won his
> first
> >> > term as president at least partly> > because he
> >> ran
> >> > as the more experienced candidate (he'd been
> >> > vice-president> > before). More experience can
> be
> >> > better, but it isn't always a guarantee of> >
> >> > quality
> >> >
> >>
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