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Actually, the next few weeks are going to be the time to do this.  The 
ideal time is when the groun thaws enough to get muddy--you just slit the 
ground with a spade push the wire under the sod and then pack it back down 
again and in a couple of weeks the sode will close back over the radial 
wires and neither your family nor the lawn mower will ever realize that it 
is there. Same thing with burying the coax--get some PVC and run the coax 
inside of it, slit the ground, push the PVC under the sod and pack it back 
down--That is how I ran the feedline for the GAP Titan and I couldn't tell 
you exactly where that pvc runs without starting at one end and doing some 
digging.

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 11:35 AM 3/1/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi;
>Thanks for the info.  There was info on e-ham concerning radial staples
>getting into the lawn mower and doing some serious harm. If I were doing my
>own mowing I'd be certain that the blade was raised and be careful.  Using a
>"lawn service" is another issue.  Although they get paid to do the lawn they
>aren't as careful as I'd like.  Also I can just picture my grandson retuning
>the antenna.  Sounds like a fun toy for a nine year old.
>Seriously though, if I can round up a helper or two I may try this antenna
>if spring ever comes.
>Richard
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lowell Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:21 PM
>Subject: Re: antenna info
>
>
>Hello Richard:
>The coax is burried just under the sod and the radials are on top of the
>ground held down by sod staples, I got them at Loew's store, and they have
>been there for over 7 years and have never been caught in a lawn moyer yet!
>No, I do not have a fence arround it but I am careful that there is no one
>in our yard when I am hamming.
>I hope this answers your questions but if you have more, just ask away.
>73
>Lowell  W8QIY
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:46 PM
>Subject: Re: antenna info
>
>
> > Hi Lowell    How far down did you bury the coax for the antenna?
> > Also, did you use nails or radial staples or actually bury the wire?  Have
> > you had any lawn mower adventures?  Did you put up a small fence or
> > anything
> > around the antenna?
> > Thanks
> > Richard
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lowell Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: antenna info
> >
> >
> > Hello Richard:
> > Well, of course, the more wire you can put on the ground the better.
> > I have about 500 feet of wire with the radials ranging in length from 12
> > feet to 170 feet long.
> > None of them are of any electrical wave length.
> > They are all of randum lengths.
> > No, I don't think that it is particularly hard to tune.
> > Start with the suggested settings by the manufacturer and from there, you
> > could use an antenna analizer.
> > I just use my LDG TW1 SWR bridge.
> > I also have added the 160 MTR coil to mine and have good results.
> > I do have an amp running about 1100 watts when needed.
> > On 75 MTR a couple of years ago, I worked a JA with a 100 watts on SSB.
> > Not bad, would you say?
> > Yes, the antenna is ground mounted as you guessed.
> > If you have more questions, just ask me!
> > 73
> > Lowell  W8QIY
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: antenna info
> >
> >
> >> Hi;
> >> Although I could change my mind tomorrow, if I ground mount something the
> >> butternut is probably at the top of my list.  Curious how many radials
> >> you
> >> put down approximately.  I have also heard it can be a bear to tune.
> >> Richard
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Lowell Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 PM
> >> Subject: Re: antenna info
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't over look the Butternut 80 through 6 MTR vertical!
> >> I have been using one for over 7 years and have put down radials in the
> >> grass of the lawn.
> >> I have worked the world with it and have even added the 160 MTR kit to it
> >> and it works well also.
> >> It is self-supporting having been in some pretty strong winds with no
> >> problems.
> >> There you are for what it is worth.
> >> Best 73.
> >> Lowell  W8QIY
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:34 PM
> >> Subject: antenna info
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Everyone;
> >>> I have spent the winter antenna browsing and I know less now than I did
> >>> before.  At any rate,  I was initially looking for an hf vertical
> >>> covering
> >>> at least 40 through 10 (75 would be nice) that was a vertical dipole and
> >>> didn't therefore require radials.
> >>> I have eliminated the r8 (been through two al ready.  I also decided
> >>> that
> >>> because I had an amplifier that I was going to try and use I was going
> >>> to
> >>> stay away from the gap.  Took a look at force 12 and decided I wasn't
> >>> going
> >>> that route either.  Anyone know of any exciting options that are durable
> >>> and
> >>> really work?
> >>> The second option was to go with something ground mounted and bite the
> >>> bullet and put down radials.  I wanted self supporting though.  My
> >>> initial
> >>> thought was the steppir but its rather tall and I suspect not really all
> >>> that self supporting.  The price was as much as a ts480 which was also a
> >>> consideration.
> >>> The other option is a "simple" g5rv but I need a 30 foot support for the
> >>> center.  Unfortunately there isn't a convenient tree.
> >>> We have had lots of wind the last few years and I don't really really
> >>> want
> >>> to worry about the thing coming down in the neighbors lawn.  I think we
> >>> had
> >>> about three wind storms that might have killed my r8.
> >>> Its much cheaper to ask for suggestions prior to spending money.
> >>> Richard
> >>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>
>
>
>
>
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Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
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