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Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:27:35 -0600
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narrow FM doesn't have to come first at all.
Narrow FM used for voice and narrow FM used for digital or basically data
transfer is something completely different.
There is no reason we should have to go narrow FM for voice with the
spectrum we currently have...though with radios like the ts2000 offering
narrow FM as an easily usable function on the radio we certainly could
utilize it more often if we begin to need it.

However, there is also no reason we shouldn't embrace digital communications
like the rest of the communications industry.
It used to be at one time that hams and amateur operators led the way in
communications but it seems as though, that as technology advances, and the
age of most amateurs, they are falling further and further behind in
accepting newer forms of communications.
It's not that digital communications in the amateur service is knew or too
technical, its the acceptance of more hams to use newer forms of
communication then just the familiar CW, SSB, AM and FM modes, and perhaps a
little PSK  and RTTY thrown in for good measure.
Why can't D star become a standard?  Its because most hams see it as either
too much bother, too technical or too "new".
Why is CW a standard on HF? it would seem to me that it has the same
learning curve and scope of difficulty as figuring out how to use your D
star radio.
But, I really believe that due to the aging amateur population, modernistic
forms of digital communications just won't take off because its too much
bother and problem to get systems in place to support it.
Especially in areas with low ham populations...the north east with its
massive population bass certainly has the guys with technical skills and
desire to at least experiment with this technology and possibly spark some
interest...since if there is a system to be used, it makes getting into
something like D star a whole lot easier then trying to build and entire
system from scratch.
And, if there is wide spread interest, the radio makers will respond with
products to fill that market.  Just like they did with SSB and first hybrid,
then solid state radios back in the 60's.
73
Colin, V A6BKX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use


> I don't think it will take hold in Ham radio though. I really don't.
Narrow
> FM hasn't even yet and I'd think that would come first. I know I'm not
going
> to spend money on it yet.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>
>
> > It's going to become the wave of the future simply because it cuts down
on
> > the radio spectrum.  The signal is very narrow, and that's going to
> > eventually make it take hold.  I can see how the oil and gas industry
> > would
> > use it very much because of the data capabilities on 1.2 ghz.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> >
> >
> >> Icom is marketing the D star technology in the commercial radio
> >> sector...not
> >> sure if they have always done this, but we recently had an Icom D star
> >> rep
> >> from Icom canada attend one of our club meetings.  He wasn't there to
> >> sell
> >> D
> >> star to local hams at all, but was attending an oil and gas industry
> >> conference where he was marketting D star for use in the oil field.
> >> It does have some fairly significant potential in certain aspects of
> >> communications in the oil and gas industry.  They are always looking
for
> >> new
> >> and better technology in that industry, or even very specific
technology
> >> to
> >> meet a need that may not exist else where.
> >> So, I suspect it may have a limited survival rate amongst hams, or at
> >> least
> >> most hams who aren't as technically savvy as others, but it may not be
in
> >> the same boat when it comes to the commercial side.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Colin, V A6BKX
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:56 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> >>
> >>
> >>> There's absolutely nothing around here, MA/RI area that I know of. As
> >>> long
> >>> as only 1 manufacturer on the ham market offers it, I don't think it
> >>> will
> >>> have any chance of survival and I don't think anyone else has any
plans
> >>> to
> >>> come out with anything compatible with it. If so, I haven't heard
about
> >>> it
> >>> so I'm sure not going to bother with it.
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:19 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Lou;
> >>> >
> >>> > Their are only a couple of repeaters in the Delaware Valley area.
> >>> >
> >>> > I will wait until the cost of the radios come down.
> >>> >
> >>> > It's probably a lot like PL tones when you had to buy the board to
go
> >> into
> >>> > the radio.
> >>> >
> >>> > 73 De Anthony W2AJV
> >>> > [log in to unmask]
> >>> > ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> > From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:05 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Chris's message raises a point of curiosity for me.  I have been
> >> hearing
> >>> >> murmurings about DStar, but don't know much about it.  Is anyone
here
> >>> >> using
> >>> >> it, or even ever observed it being used?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> 73, de Lou K2LKK
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Louis Kim Kline
> >>> >> A.R.S. K2LKK
> >>> >> Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> >>> >> Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> >>> >> Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
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