Jabou,

Don't worry, I won't waste my time on him. He can keep on beating about the
bush and quoting the price of tea in China when confronted with the question
at the heart of this conflict. You are right, he knows damn well what the
issues is but as long as his masters have not come up with a pointer for
him to argue, something which they themselves don't have, thus the lies, he
has nothing to come up with. So like Mugabe told his maters, he can go hang!

Regards,

Kabir.




On 4/6/07, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Kabir,
>
> I think Cornelius here knows the facts but he definitely has an agenda
> based on all we have seen from him so far. I would not waste time on him at
> all. Let us just watch him do his dance.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Zimbabwe
>
> Are you serious? You think I give a damn who you are related to, whose
> company you keep or what books you have read? What use is your familiarity
> with colonial history or the books you have read when you cannot get a
> point
> as simple as honouring an agreement signed at the dawn of independence to
> return stolen land?
>
> Keep on googling... At the end of the day if you haven't learnt better
> than
> to take the side of a double-crossing thief you would not have come far.
>
> To disregard the fact that thousand of families are suffering daily
> because
> the economically powerful relatives of the thief gang up and demand that
> unless the thief retains the stolen property they will strangulate their
> small economy and make them continue to catch hell.
>
> To disregard that fact that when the aggrieved party, after decades of
> suffering they could tolerate no longer, mobilized to fight against their
> oppressor thieves, got an agreement from the thieves and their relatives
> that the stolen property will be returned only to be nakedly and
> shamelessly
> double-crossed.
>
> To side with the thief when a fight ensues over returning the stolen
> property - a fight in the the thief is far more well-off than the victim
> and
> does not even need the stolen property for his continued survival - but
> continue to highlight and trumpet the fact that agents of the thieves have
> been dealt broken noses and bruises.
>
> When you cannot see beyond the broken noses and bruises and ask why the
> parties are fighting in the first place, or when you are told why they are
> fighting you elect to ignore the facts of history and bury your head in
> the
> sand because for one reason or another you cannot fathom why Black people
> would stand up for their rights, especially against Europeans.
>
> That to me is to say that Black people are not equal or don't deserve the
> same rights and treatment as all other people; that Black people should
> just
> let Europeans continue to control their economies and be content with
> whatever crumbs come their way.
>
> If that is your justification for labelling me "Black Radical" you must be
> the most clueless Black man that ever lived. Googling "Kabir" won't help
> you; googling "Mugabe" won't help you either. Nor will highlighting all
> the
> symptoms of the Zimbabwe crisis. Get to the bottom of the issue, the Land
> Issue for which Zimbabweans shed their blood only for your idols to pull
> this big double-cross that they have been making attempts for years to
> camouflage with lies and deception.
>
> That is what I am interested in. Robert Mugabe is just and individual. It
> is
> the policies that he stands for that I support, it could have been any
> other
> Zimbabwean for that matter. As far as they continue to demand the stolen
> land back we are on the same page Your ilk have been so blinded by Western
> progagand that you cannot see beyond the person of Mugabe at the bigger
> picture: the rights of Zimbabweans to regain land that was stolen at gun
> point; daylight robbery!
>
> You can go to all the higher institutions of learning in the world, at the
> end of the day if what you have learnt does not avail you the wherewithal
> to
> recocnise injustice it would all have been in vain, naught!
>
> So save yourself the trouble "Mr Hemelberg," for I don't see what you
> could
> possibly come with to defend this indefensible act of deceit and betrayal.
> The very reason you have been avoiding the point at the centre of this
> whole
> saga, the land issue is that the land thieves and those fighting their
> battles in all the international stage have not given you a plausible
> justification to argue with. So unless you address the land issue I'm not
> going to waste my time engaging you, for whatever you may come with I can
> get from the source, your masters!
>
> Kabir.
>
>
> On 4/6/07, Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kabir,
> >
> > http://www.statehouse.gm/tijankabbah-visit_030407.htm
> >
> > http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20055173.shtml
> >
> > I will give you the attention that you deserve, but right now, I'm
> > otherwise
> > engaged. I am familiar with (African )colonial history in some
> > depth: India,
> > North America, Australia, Algeria, Ghana, Kenya, South Africa, Congo,
> > Nigeria, Guinea, of course Zimbabwe, you name it and people like Walter
> > Rodney and even the type of ideas that you are likely to find in the
> Race
> > and
> > History website. Apart from that I have kept the company of some of
> these
> > people. So please excuse me for the next couple of hours and �� respect
> -
> > let
> > me return to give you the answer that should engage you, so that
> although
> > you may be Sir Mr. Black Radical, I won't let you down.
> > My second brother (I have three) is married to a Zimbabwean whose mother
> > is
> > Boer from South Africa and whose father is Black and from Zimbabwe.
> >
> > http://www.raceandhistory.com/Zimbabwe/
> >
> > Later.
> >
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