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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:35:44 -0700
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Mage, PLEASE DO NO HESITATE TO LEAN ON US FOR ANYTHING
I OR WE (I THINK I CAN SAY WE) CAN DO TO HELP. 

there are many if not all of us sheding tears with
you. may God give you comfort and peace. you and your
sister will remain in our prayers. 



--- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Today my sister and 
> Gary, kat, ken, trisha, linda...... thank you...
>  
> Today my sister and I and two of our cousins, after
> listening to what the doctor was saying, decided it
> would be an act out of love to put him out of his
> misery.  The doctor began removing the blood
> pressure med, the antibiotics, the liquid
> nutrition... less than 15 minutes later she came to
> get us saying she thought he was going to go very
> quickly. They kept him on oxygen, and gave him a lot
> of morphine which apparently not only helps pain,
> but calms the heart. We all went back to say our
> goodbyes, though it was clear zev was not really
> there he was just lingering on.  Whenever his
> heartrate went up, the nurses would come give him
> more morphine. we took turns standing with him, and
> then at 4 PM I was having blood sugar issues so I
> went downstairs and got dinner. I was just finishing
> and angella and I were toasting "to Daddy" when my
> cousin came running in, saying they think he's going
> to go now... Slowly we watched as his heartrate kept
> dropping, and
>  then it hit 20, and my cousin who is a doctor
> turned the alarm off and aviva and I had our hands
> on daddy and each other... then it hit zero... and
> daddy stopped gasping and looked peaceful... the
> whole process was about two hours.  I wept for short
> periods of time, as things would just hit me.  I
> kept kissing his head, and after it was over and the
> o2 mask was off, I hugged him as best I could...
>  
> I've lost my dad who was also my best
> friend...........  he was an absolutrely wonderful
> man, he was the best dad i could ever have. and no,
> gary, he never told me I could not succeed, he may
> have felt like over protecting me, but he never held
> me back.  i think there is something about the
> father-daughter relationship that makes the dad want
> to protect his daughters even if they don't have
> disability.
>  
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> Tamar Mag Raine
> [log in to unmask]
> www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Gary Peterson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:28:41 PM
> Subject: Mage's Dad
> 
> 
> Mage,
> 
> I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad I was thinking
> as I read what 
> Trisha wrote here, as sad as you are right now, I
> think the greatest 
> thing you can do both for your Dad and your self, is
> to continue to be 
> the person you are.  Just think back on all those
> years ago when you 
> first started to make a life for your self and how
> independent you set 
> out to be then, and how independent you are today!!
> 
> I cant help but feel with everything I have inside
> me that your Dad 
> even if he was one of those who might have told you
> over and over 
> again  you could never make it onm  your own in the
> big wide world, he 
> may have been one of your biggest soporteds!!  I
> know the more people 
> told me how I would never be  able to make it on my
> own the stronger 
> and more determined I got so I could prove them
> wrong!!
> 
> So as your Dad moves on to the next life, give him
> and your self the 
> plasure of seeing just how strong you continue to
> be.
> 
> So all my best friend, and know we are all here for
> you now just as 
> you've been for us over the years.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Trisha Cummings wrote:
> 
> > Oh Mag,
> >
> >  I am so sorry to hear this - take life one day at
> a time and things slowly will get better and a new
> normal will appear. They will never be the same but
> the people we love live on forever in our hearts and
> we only need think of them to have them with us.
> >                           Sending Hugs - Trisha
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List on behalf of Tamar Raine
> > Sent: Wed 9/19/2007 10:18 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Washington post global warming sites
> >
> >
> >
> > dad is dying, we are going to remove the
> respirator, there's no point in hi=
> > m just existing........... life without my dad is
> unfathonable=0A =0A~~~~~~=
> >
>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=0Ahttp://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*=0ATamar
> Mag =
> >
>
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original
> Message ----=0AFrom: ken ba=
> > rber <[log in to unmask]>=0ATo:
> [log in to unmask]: Tuesday=
> > , September 18, 2007 8:24:44 AM=0ASubject: Re:
> Washington post global warmi=
> > ng sites=0A=0A=0Ahowever mr bush is a politician
> too. =0A=0A--- Deri James =
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:=0A=0A> On
> Monday 17 September 2007 18:=
> > 33, Trisha Cummings=0A> wrote:=0A> > Hi Ken,=0A>
> >=0A> >   Here's what was =
> > on the front page of the=0A> Washington Post
> website.=0A> >=0A> >          =
> >       Enjoy - Trisha=0A> >=0A> >
> =0A>=0A<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-=
> >
>
dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091600607.html?hpid=3Dtopnews>=0A>
> >=
> > =0A> >
>
=0A>=0A<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2006/05=
> > /03/LI2006050300853.html>=0A> =0A> Hi Trish,=0A>
> =0A> Ken is not arguing th=
> > at global warming isn't=0A> happening, he just
> feels that the =0A> reasons =
> > for the warming are not substantially due to=0A>
> human activity, rather =0A=
> >> that it is due to varying solar output.=0A> =0A>
> The problem with this vi=
> > ew is that it means there's=0A> nothing we can do
> about =0A> it, you can't =
> > turn down the thermostat on  the sun!!=0A>
> However, if global =0A> warming =
> > is due to human activity there are plenty of=0A>
> things individually we =0A=
> >> can do.=0A> =0A> Ken is also correct that there
> is less consensus on=0A> =
> > what the long term EFFECT =0A> of global warming
> will be (he confuses this =
> > with=0A> uncertainty about whether it =0A> is
> man-made or not - on which th=
> > ere is now=0A> overwhelming consensus that it is
> =0A> the major contributar=
> > y factor (including Mr Bush's=0A> chief scientist
> Professor =0A> John Marbu=
> > rger=0A>
>
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6994760.stm>).=0A>
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