well mag, i'll accept your belief. i think time only
will tell if you are right or if those that believe
something else are right. you stating your belief is
honest and i accept that. i hope you are wrong, but, i
accept the honest belief. 

--- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dear Ken,
> 
> It seems I misspoke about "lie" of wmd, but when
> they were not found, we
> were told at least two other stories about why we
> remain there. Just as I
> doubt there will be peace between Israel and the
> Palestinians, (and it's
> been on for 5,000 plus years) I doubt there can be
> peace between all the
> different groups in Iraq. It's a shame that we have
> killed so many Iraqis,
> but i truly believe that it's the Iraqis themselves
> who must decide whether
> they want to become a democracy. It's not something
> that can be forced. The
> thing that i hate about Americans as linda describes
> so well, is how we
> abandon those who do come home damaged from the war.
> We turn our backs on
> these boys and girls, and so When I see or hear
> "SUPPORT THE TROOPS" I'm
> like, yeah right, as long as they're over there, we
> support them, but as
> soon as they return with physical and emotional
> problems, we turn our backs
> on them. It's the vets who are homeless, the vets
> that have psychriatric
> problems, the vets who become disabled.  and we
> throw them on the streets
> and tell them, tough luck, guys.  
> 
> Mag 
> 
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> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 3/25/2006 10:57:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question   now iraq
> war.
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Bush did lie about something as important as
> whether or not to send 
> > our citizens to die in foreign land. He was warned
> and did know there 
> > were no WMD's. That evidence is pretty clear. I
> cannot understand how 
> > you can defend that point.
> > Beyond that all the attacks on benefits for the
> disabled and the 
> > rollbacks of hard won things people who suffer
> need are at the hands 
> > of the Republicans. This is a mean spirited
> uncaring group who stole 
> > 2 elections. He didn't win in Ohio legally last
> time and he lost 
> > Florida the first time.
> > I live and am renting to returned soldiers and I
> can tell you they 
> > are wrecks and for what? OIL!! You cannot send out
> a 19 year old 
> > sniper to kill people and have him get over 20
> 'hits' as they 
> > euphemistically refer to killing people and not
> have emotional 
> > problems. If you want to see a psychologist in the
> Army to help you 
> > cope with this and what you have witnessed there
> then consider your 
> > career dead.
> > One young man we rented to drove himself off a
> cliff 2 weeks after 
> > his return. He was drunk as many of them are in
> order to stop the 
> > feelings from coming out. This war casualty will
> not be counted by 
> > the Bushites. The soldiers returning from Vietnam
> caused many social 
> > problems and that will pale in the face of the
> social costs of this 
> > war. Domestic violence will increase dramatically
> among soldiers and 
> > many of them will not be able to recoup any sense
> of peace in their 
> > lives. I am seeing this up close and personal more
> that I care 
> > to.  Even neocons are deserting him now.
> >
> > At 07:49 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> > >now mag, the definition of a lie is to tell
> something
> > >that you know is not true at the time you tell
> it.
> > >look it up.
> > >   you guys who can't come up with anything but
> "bush
> > >lied" just do not know how foolish you sound. i
> love
> > >you, but, please, get past that tripe. bush as
> well as
> > >all your derm senators and intelligence around
> the
> > >world all said saddam had wmd. you do not say
> every
> > >body lied, only "bush lied."
> > >   the truth is that nobody lied about wmd,
> becouse not
> > >a one of them knew that he did not have them and
> went
> > >ahead and said he did.
> > >    get past the foolishness and get something
> > >substantial to say.
> > >
> > >--- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Saddam is being tried for the atrocities he
> > > > perpetrated against the Kurds,
> > > > and Iranians, as well as murdering some of his
> own
> > > > people.
> > > >
> > > > Bush lying about weapons of mass destruction
> or
> > > > Clinton lying about his
> > > > affair; which  is worse?  I say bush's lies
> about
> > > > wmd is worse because
> > > > after they found no wmd, he made up several
> other
> > > > stories about why we are
> > > > there.
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > [log in to unmask]
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > From: Anthony Arnold
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Date: 3/24/2006 5:19:03 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question   now
> iraq
> > > > war.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know what we're currently trying
> Hussein
> > > > and his brother for, but
> > > > > they had no involvement in September 11th,
> so why
> > > > are we over there
> > > > besides
> > > > > to take our frustration out on somebody. 
> But on
> > > > the other hand, if I
> > > > would
> > > > > become the president tomorrow, I wouldn't
> pull out
> > > > immediately as some
> > > > would
> > > > > like to see, I would personally like to fix
> what
> > > > my country has done.
> > > > It's
> > > > > like if I accidentally dropped a cigarette
> on
> > > > somebody's carpet and it
> > > > burns
> > > > > a hole, I would feel oppogated to replace
> their
> > > > carpet, no matter what.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Anthony
> > > > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > > Kendall David Corbett
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:49 PM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question now
> iraq war.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken,
> 
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