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Sam Jimba <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:02:25 -0500
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Anita,

Oh! So the longer it takes to understand each other in a relationship, the better. This is interesting. It implies once a couple understand each other, the thrill of "studying" the other is gone. And so goes a good measure of enthusiasm? Hmm. It would then be gainful to complicate oneself the more in order to prolong the inter-personal "study" period. This will be one more reason why boys and girls should try to delay "enrollment". By this theory, the earlier you enroll, the earlier you're likely to "graduate". What else should one say? To those who’re already enrolled, one wishes you a longer stay in school!

Sam

>  Very few people *understand* relationships. Some of that has to do 
> with the
>  involvement of the "heart" as well as the "head". After 20 years of marriage
>  to the same man, I still find our relationship is very much like learning
>  how to live in a foreign country: Every day finds me one minute thinking
>  I've got "him" or "it" all figured out and the next minute feeling as 
> if
>  "he" or "it" is a complete and utter mystery to me. If 20 years is 
> not long
>  enough to fully understand one relationship, no wonder young people struggle
>  to understand many.
>  
>  Perhaps if I ever solved the puzzle, I would sit back and sigh, feeling
>  bereft because I had lost the basic urge that keeps us moving forward 
> in our
>  relationships. I don't think I want to reach full understanding but I 
> do
>  enjoy the journey. Bottom line: Working toward understanding in
>  relationships is a very rewarding endeavor, and talking about how to 
> engage
>  our children in conversations about their relationships is *extremely*
>  valuable.
>  
>  I'm glad to see that this list is willing to take on some of the 
> tough human
>  issues in a humane way, and I hope such dialogs continue. Our young people
>  need open dialog in a caring and nurturing environment, and despite 
> all the
>  negative press out there, I know that many young people are getting just
>  that from parents and other role models in our community. So don't be 
> afraid
>  to keep up the good fight and the great conversations!
>  
>  Kind regards,
>  Anita
>  
>  On 8/28/07, VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>  
>  >
>  > How many young women really understand this...and I mean what this 
> is
>  > actually telling them about what the men think of them...easy, 
> casual sex,
>  > with no emotional or financial committment. They aren't even paying 
> for it!
>  > It's free!
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: Uche Okpara <[log in to unmask]>
>  > Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:41 pm
>  > Subject: Re: Print this for your daughters!
>  > To: [log in to unmask]
>  >
>  > >  I doubt that the problem is lack of wisdom on the part of young
>  > > ladies, and
>  > >  I don't think the motives of the young men are ulterior to the young
>  > > ladies,
>  > >  as that suggests the young ladies are completely unaware of the
>  > > "motives" of
>  > >  the men and that whatever benefits accrue from cohabitation largely
>  > > goes to
>  > >  the men. These adults (young ladies or men) knowingly enter this 
> type
>  > > of
>  > >  relationship and mutually benefit from it. Also, the fact that many
>  > > young
>  > >  ladies agree to enter (and remain in) such relationships makes a
>  > > statement:
>  > >  they do not want to wait for the man who values them as "the one 
> they
>  > > were
>  > >  waiting for."
>  > >
>  > >  Regards,
>  > >  Uche.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  ----- Original Message -----
>  > >  From: "VERA R CROWELL" <[log in to unmask]>
>  > >  To: <[log in to unmask]>
>  > >  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:50 PM
>  > >  Subject: Re: Print this for your daughters!
>  >
>  > >  > I wasn't advocating leaving out the males. However, while we're
>  > > teaching
>  > >  > them these values, it's better if they aren't already immersed 
> in
>  > > taking
>  > >  > advantage of a woman they consider "second best" while they're
>  > > waiting for
>  > >  > their "soul mate."
>  >
>  > >  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > >  > From: Emilie Ngo Nguidjol <[log in to unmask]>
>  > >  > Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:59 pm
>  > >  > Subject: Re: Print this for your daughters!
>  > >  > To: [log in to unmask]
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >>  Why leave our sons behind if we want to educate children about
>  > >  >> relationships? So much of the teaching is directed to our daughters
>  > >  >> only, yet so little to our sons on this topic. Success of a marriage
>  > >  >> depends on both the man and the woman If we want to foster healthy
>  > >  >> relationships, it does not suffice to "teach young women to say
>  > >  >> "NO!!"". We must start with teaching young men what is important
>  > > in a
>  > >  >> relationship (of any kind) and the value of respect of the OTHER
>  > (the
>  > >  >> woman, in this case).
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >>  --Emilie
>  > >  >>
>  > >  >>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > >  >>  From: VERA R CROWELL <[log in to unmask]>
>  > >  >>  Date: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:31 pm
>  > >  >>  Subject: Print this for your daughters!
>  > >  >>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  > >  >>  >
>  > >  >>  >  Very good reasons to teach young women to say "NO!!"
>  > >  >>  >
>  > >  >>  >
>  > >  >>
>  > http://lifestyle.msn.com/Relationships/CouplesandMarriage/ArticleLHJ.aspx?cp-documentid=1070537
>  >
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