Suntou,
 
Our Ousman is part of what I call The New Gambians. They obliterate all  
myths, don't take any garbaldigook laying down, and have finally realized there  
is strength both in numbers and conscientious individual. What they engage in  
now is determining how best to harness the two synergies to yield common good. 
 He is in the same boat as Galleh, Ndey, Laye, Karim, Fatou, Yero, Alieu, 
Gajigo,  Sainabou, The African Child - camaraLaye, and our silent partners here. 
I  hope in all this you don't lose sight of yourself for it is easy to miss 
the  trees for the forest. I don't include Jabou here cos she's a seasoned  
veteran like myself.
 
The Ceesays are like the Hydaras in that respect. They still travel with  the 
Qur'an tethered to their belts now instead of in a pouch as they have been  
mythified to do. Travel with it nonetheless. And he is an Obama-head as I 
shared  with sister Jabou. I think one thing the Obama-heads overlook is 
distinctions in  value-change. Since I happen to know a thing or two about Obama's 
"grassroots  advocacy" I shall share with them some ideas in due course.
 
Haruna.

 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2007 1:27:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

You know  what Ousman ,i underestimate your political will .all along i 
thought the  ceesay's were mostly good with the kurus or tasbayo .werrdo if you 
know what i  mean.but hey times have change ,ceesay politicians ,who will do the 
duaa  ,then.i will check out the site of obama ,but for real Ousman ,do you 
think  America has reach the stage of change to elect a mix-race in white house 
? i  doubt it.

Ousman Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:    Suntou,

You were right the first time when you said: "i don't know much  about 
barak". If you do, you wouldn't need me to tell you that Barack started  his career 
right out of Harvard Law doing community organizing on the south  side of 
Chicago. He could have gone and work for any Law firm (like Edward  did) and make 
millions of dollars, but he chose to work with poor, laid of  workers in that 
downtrodden side of the windy city. That is selfless  service.

If you want to know more about where Barack stands on the  issues, hear it 
from the horse's mouth...  http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/

Don't get me wrong with Edwards.  If Obama wasn't running, he will be my 
choice. I can't stand the Clintons,  Biden talks too much, Dodd is alright, 
Richardson has a nice resume, but when  he opens his mouth you get the drift. 
Kucinich will be kucinich. 

I am  not a democrat. I considered myself independent. The republican field 
of  candidates just doesn't cut it for me this time around. I used to like 
Mccain,  before his war mongering. Giuliani was a joke before the 911 tragedy. 
Hunter  is militarist, Tancredo is a xenophobe. Ron Paul is Ok on Iraq, but his  
libertarian screech is too extreme for me. Romney flip flop on everything.  
Can't trust him.

I settled on Obama, because I believe he can bring  this nation together. He 
has shown good judgment in the past. That is more  important to me than been 
the spouse of an ex-president.  




SUNTOU TOURAY wrote: so Edward did back the Bloody Irag  war ? many decent 
folks did back the war but later realise the colosal  mistake.I hope mr Edward 
learnt from that bad judgement.For Obama ,tell us  more about the man.he is 
slim and fiary .he is eloquent and smart .he stood  his grounds against the 
pressure form the zionist and hawkish war lobby.what  about his records on the 
social unfortunate ,the neglected masses ,the low  income earners ,the immigrant 
populations ,what about those real issues  politicians in the west would rather 
succumb to media pressure.? Ouman sell  your man ,i know he can capture a few 
Gambian votes.

Ousman Ceesay  wrote: Suntou wrote:

"i don't know much about barak but i know for  ceratin he will not win the 
primary "

For certain huh. How can you be  so certain when you claimed to know so 
little about Obama?

On Edwards,  his rhetoric has been populist lately. His record while in 
office paints a  whole different picture. He has been apologizing for a whole slew 
of votes he  casted during his one term senate career....Iraq, Nafta etc. 
People learn from  mistakes. God knows we all make them, however judgment and 
courage of  convictions matters. Edwards knew in his gut that Iraq wasn't a good 
idea, but  his ambitions clouded his judgment. Obama stood up at the time and 
call it a  dumb war...his judgment and courage has been prescient on that and 
many other  issues. 

"i watched him and oprah on tv last week and it was an oprah  show not obama 
,sorry obama fans."...suntou

Oprah's support is just the  icing on the cake, but observers of the primary 
will tell you that the  community organizer (obama) from Illinois has his 
ground game in Iowa, New  Hampshire and South Carolina tight. He was surging in 
the polls before the  "oprah palooza". So this is not Oprah's show...give the 
man his due. He is not  going to win this primary and the general because of 
Oprah, but despite oprah.  Not trying to take anything from Oprah...she is an 
asset to his  campaign.

I don't like making certitude statements, but Obama has as  good a chance of 
winning this primary as anyone at this stage.We are fired up  and ready to go. 
Come January 3rd the naysayers will be welcome on the Barack  mobile bound 
for the hills of New Hampshire. 





SUNTOU  TOURAY wrote: Masoud ,i would like to say that ,you have developed 
into a  powerful political mega man over the years.What an endorsement of mr 
edward  .he should keep you by his side. even me a non-american voter is a bit 
swayed  to mr edwards camp.i don't know much about barak but i know for ceratin 
he  will not win the primary .my reason ,very few.i watched him and oprah on 
tv  last week and it was an oprah show not obama ,sorry obama fans.  


Haruna Darbo wrote:

Jabou, you know you are beautiful. I  can never get upset at you.

I think you like both John Edwards and  Obama, but that you like Obama more 
because his election will represent  much needed change.

Would you consider that the election of John  Edwards will also represent 
change?

The work therefore is in  discerning between John Edwards and Obama, who is 
the more desirable  change!!!

Now, like you about John Edwards, I like Obama a lot because  I think he is 
brilliant, popular, and his election will give hope to a lot  of Immigrant 
Americans.

John Edwards not only represents hope for  more Americans than Obama, he has 
shown the value of the change that he  may accrue us. I have not had the 
opportunity to witness a sampling of  Obama's change except that he looks 
different 
from past  presidents.

John Edwards' One America Foundation offers some  hope.
John Edwards' rebuilding efforts in the Lower Ninth ward offer hope  in what 
America can be.
John Edwards fought with Huge corporate outfits  on the behalf of regular and 
common Americans, and John Edwards and Obama  are both lawyers.
Senator John Edwards of North carolina will get dirty for  you and with you.
North Carolina used to be the home of Senator Jesse  Helms.
John Edwards enjoys enormous peer support and the most endorsements  from 
Democratic governors of states than either Obama or Clinton.
John  Edwards is more electable across the United states than any candidate  
currently seeking the presidency, Republican or Democrat. Check the  stats.
Libby Edwards is beautiful and is not beholden to corporate America.  Mrs. 
Obama is beautiful but may be beholden to corporate America. She sits  on the 
board of Walmart.
John Edwards is handsome and is not given to  religious distinctions nor does 
he believe religion ought to be mixed with  governance. John Edwards believes 
in Religion as moral and ethical  compass, not administrative compass.

Obama is good. John Edwards is  more valuable to all America. Edwards-Obama 
may be formidable. What do you  think my dear? Lemme know, Lemme know!! You 
know 
Ousman is an  Obama-head!!! Don't you??

Your friend and colleague Haruna. 

In  a message dated 12/13/2007 8:40:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Haruna,

I both like and have a great  deal of respect for John Edwards and his wife 
Elizabeth for many reasons,  some of which are mentioned below. However, I am 
an Obama supporter  myself. I also think Obama has a better chance of being 
elected because  among other things, he is seen as the "change" candidate by 
a country that  desperately needs change and Hillary ain't it. Infact, I 
think Hillary has  turned into a "snake oil sales lady" and she is everything 
to 
everyone in  her zeal to be president and I do not trust her at all and the 
rest of the  country is beginning to see through her. I think that Edwards' 
best 
shot  will be as a V.P for Obama. I think together they would make an awesome 
 
team.
Now, now, don't get too  upset.
Jabou








-----Original  Message-----
From: Haruna Darbo 
To:  [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 6:49 pm
Subject: I  wish to share John Edwards with  you:










We just concluded another  conference call with David Medina, the national 
campaign director for John  Edwards.

We are excited about the prospects for a John Edwards  Presidency. We are 
pleased to have the support of Harry Belafonte and  Danny Glover in South 
Carolina. Our gratitude to the United Steel workers  Union, The Mine Workers 
Union, 
The Carpenters Union, and Friends of  the Earth Action Network. I am proud 
of 
John Edwards' performance in  the just concluded democratic candidate debate 

sponsored by the Des  Moines Register. John Edwards is humble, intelligent, 
and 
stands up  for the Common American even on unpopular issues. He has vision 
and  
character, attributes that are extremely valuable to American foreign  
policy 
and stature in the world.

We would like volunteers to  assist in South Carolina, Iowa, Nevada, and New 

Hampshire. We also  wish to ask for your financial support if your time will 
not allow  volunteering. Please visit us at _http://www.johnedwards.com_  
(http://www.johnedwards.com) and thank you for your support and company  
toward 
a 
One-America.

Haruna.







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