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Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]>
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That's where I got it wrong. I tried cooking it in an orgone atmospere!

I like Port Orford Cedar for exterior longevity when left untreated.

Wudy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Gale" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [BP] Wood in the Desert


There is some native but rare wood in AZ that might hold up well but it
will be a little hard to work with (i.e. traditional carpentry tools
will be of little use).  Some is located in a National Park there so is
probably off limits but you may be able to find a supply locally outside
the park.  Other sources can be found in Northern Canada, Australia,
etc. but the best is suppose to be found in Argentina.  Other countries
(India e.g.) have protected their supplies as they are from
non-renewable forests (at least in the next few generations).   Ask the
local supplier if they can get any what is commonly know as "PW" or
"petrified wood".

If you can't get any natural product there is suppose to be a lab in
Washington that has produced an artificial form.  The process involves
soaking wood (pine and poplar for the experiment) in a hydrochloric acid
bath for two days then in a silica solution for another two. The product
was then cooked at 1400 °C in an argon atmosphere for two hours. The
result was silicon carbide ceramic which preserves the intricate cell
structure of the wood.  They have been using small cubes in the
experiment so I'm not sure they are set up to do large scale pieces.
Perhaps they can advise how you might go about making it yourself.
See: http://www.livescience.com/technology/050127_petrified_wood.html


Wouldn't dare post this on that other humorless list for fear of being
expelled.
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D. Ense



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>     Okay folks I have a tough one. Some architect has called us for
>     advice on using wood sunshields in the desert outside Phoenix AZ. He
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