ECHURCH-USA Archives

The Electronic Church

ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Reply To:
The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:32:19 -0500
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (135 lines)
1. I bow to no man.

2. These so called leaders, are no leader of mine.

3. This is why I am less inclined to organized 
"church" and when it comes to studying the Word, 
there are some helpful sermons, but reading the 
Word letting it interpret itself is best.

4. I really feel anger for the purpsoeful taking 
advantage of folks seeking to belong to 
something, to feel as though they are doing 
right. These so called leaders will pay according 
to their deeds, I just feel for the lsot souls following man and not God.

Brad




on 08:34 AM 8/4/2007, John Schwery said:

How far has the so-called church fallen?

Text of forwarded message follows:


Charisma magazine finally got one right!  This one is spot on!!

The Deadly Virus of Celebrity Christianity
Some bigheaded preachers demand rock star 
treatment. If the apostle Paul were around today 
he might throw rocks at them.

Just when I thought we charismatics had finally 
taken enough abuse from the egomaniac ministers 
in our midst, I’ve learned that some of our 
leaders are taking things to a new extreme. We’ve 
moved beyond the red carpets, limousines and 
entourages of the 1990s. A new strain of the 
celebrity virus is spreading in large segments of the church.
of Christ? All I know is that God is grieved by 
all of this shameful carnality.”
One friend of mine in Texas recently inquired to 
see if a prominent preacher could speak at her 
conference. The minister’s assistant faxed back a 
list of requirements that had to be met in order 
to book a speaking engagement. The demands included:
a five-figure honorarium
a $10,000 gasoline deposit for the private plane
a manicurist and hairstylist for the speaker
a suite in a five-star hotel
a luxury car from the airport to the hotel (2004 model or newer)
room-temperature Perrier
This really makes me wonder how the apostle Paul, 
Timothy or Priscilla managed ministering to so 
many people in Ephesus, Corinth and Thessalonica. 
How did they survive without a manicurist if they 
broke a nail while laying hands on the sick?

I was relieved to know that this celebrity 
preacher’s requirements in 2007 did not include a 
set of armed bodyguards—because I just might want 
to jump uninvited into her Rolls-Royce and say a few words.

It gets worse, if you can believe it. At a 
charismatic conference in an East Coast city 
recently, a pastor stood on a stage in front of a 
large crowd and smugly announced that the guest 
speaker was “more than an apostle.” Then the host 
asked everyone to bow down to the person, 
claiming that this posture was necessary to release God’s power.

“This is the only way you can receive this kind 
of anointing!” the host declared, bowing in front 
of the speaker. Immediately, about 80 percent of 
the audience fell prostrate on the floor. The few 
who were uncomfortable with the weird spiritual 
control in the room either walked out or stood in silent protest.

So today, I guess it’s not enough to feed a 
celebrity preacher’s ego by treating them like a 
rock star. We also are required to worship him.

And apparently in some places you even have to 
pay big bucks to speak with him. In a city in the 
South, a well-known preacher is known to ask for 
money in order to secure a five- or 10-minute 
counseling session. The minister uses Proverbs 
18:16, “A man’s gift makes room for him and 
brings him before great men” (NASB), to support 
this bizarre practice. Some people are known to 
give more than $1,000 for a short meeting.

People on fixed incomes need not apply. (That 
would include lepers, blind beggars, Samaritan 
women or any other social outcasts who were 
welcomed and healed by Jesus without payment.)

What has become of the American church? What is 
this sickness spreading in the body of Christ? I 
don’t know whom to blame more for it: The 
narcissistic minister who craves the attention, 
or the spiritually naive crowds who place these 
arrogant people on their shaky pedestals. All I 
know is that God is grieved by all of this shameful carnality.

How far we have fallen from authentic New 
Testament faith. Paul, who carried the anointing 
of an apostle but often described himself as a 
bond slave, told the Thessalonians, “Having so 
fond an affection for you, we were well-pleased 
to impart to you not only the gospel of God but 
also our own lives” (1 Thess. 2:8).

New Testament Christianity is humble, selfless 
and authentic. And those who carry the truth 
don’t preach for selfish gain or to meet an 
emotional need for attention. May God help us 
root out the false apostles and false teachers 
who are making the American church sick with 
their man-centered, money-focused heresies.

J. Lee Grady is editor of Charisma. The August 
issue of Charisma is now available on newsstands.


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - 
Release Date: 8/2/2007 2:22 PM
End of forwarded message text:

John

ATOM RSS1 RSS2