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From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Brad D
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Harry Potter? - WAS:Re: Miss Flurrie


Angel,

You said...
"The books actually engage the children in reading hard copy books which is
good.  Functional illiteracy is rampant these days and anything which will
promote literacy is a good thing"

I respectfully disagree. While I do think some of the criticisms are fought
with an attitude the books  were written and published straight out of hell
and perhaps somewhat over the top, yet I know they weren't written in
heaven either. I also do not believe them to be spiritually healthy
according to  those whom opinions and discernments I respect. I do not need
to read the Koran to know it is not of God, or other publications which
have been run through the ringer enough to get a fair assessment as to
their origin if one looks at it openly, and I do find it a bit naive to
assume anything that will bring a lesser gap in illiteracy is good. Beware
of wolves in sheep's clothing. The way I've seen things progress over the
years is the wolf is a clone to a sheep in appearance. Next you know the
wool takes on a bit darker of a tinge, just barely noticeable. Soon the
hair then becomes a little less curly and more strait and the white stub
tail grows a few inches at a time, ever so slowly. The muzzle becomes a bit
more defined and protruded and flattened. The fur takes on a little darker
tinge to it now again. The ears begin to perk a little bit but still not
too noticeable over time,  and this continues until you stare bold face
into the eyes of a wolf and think little of it. It isn't the full blown
wolf's face we need be concerned with as that becomes obvious to avoid, it
is the slight changes, as they begin, as they seem harmless enough. If you
watch any TV, which I don't so much and why it stands out to me, we went
from Elvis being shown waist up in the 60's to not show a wriggling leg, to
nearly the queen mother of cuss words, sex scenes, some nudity and never
ending innuendoes of sexual inferences both in heterosexual to homosexual.
Watch for those colored changing straightened curls. I do agree that
illiteracy is more prevelent, especially in the inner cities due to lack of
education funding and disfunctional families, but not a reason to accept
the words written between the lines in order to lower illiteracy
statistics. Maybe we can pray for an equal of Christian value, a modern day
CS Lewis or the like.

Brad


Brad



At 09:03 AM 7/23/2007, you wrote:
>The books actually engage the children in reading hard copy books which is
>good.  Functional illiteracy is rampant these days and anything which will
>promote literacy is a good thing.  I think those as I who have never read
>the books really shouldn't comment on their value.  As they are children's
>books I have not read them.  I don't understand how they could be worse
>than some of the other sorts of literature, or motion pictures read and
>watched these days.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chipmunks" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:44 AM
>Subject: Re: Harry Potter? - WAS:Re: Miss Flurrie
>
>
>>Thanks for the clarification. I did not follow all of this thread in
>>great detail and missed the original Harry Potter reference.
>>
>>
>>I know that Christians are split up over whether or not to read these
>>books. IMO there is way too much comotion made over the issue though.
>>They are fantasy novels, modern day fairy tales, and, like with anything
>>else they consume, i think youngsters should notconsume them without
>>their parents' knowledge and with younger children, guidance. I do not
>>think, however, that there is any greater significance to them - nor any
>>hidden deeper mesage for Christians or anyone else - beyond them being a
>>phenomenon as to their success and getting the computer generation of
>>kids back into reading hardcopy books.
>>
>>As I did not see or do not remember the original post, i do not know what
>>was said. I just don't think a series of novels would impact history
>>beyond maybe a note towards its success and popularity. I do not think
>>anyone misses out on anything by not reading the book but then it might
>>be a fun way to spend a sleepless night. <g.
>>
>>I hope you get the rest you need and continue to pray for your health.
>>
>>love and hugs,
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>
>>
>>At 04:20 AM 7/23/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>Well, here is the explanation.
>>>
>>>I was rambling.  My mind went back to a reference earlier on the list
>>>where somebody said they also felt that the big love affair the U.S. and
>>>the U.K. had been having with the Harry Potter books may have provoked
>>>God's judgement to try to once again catch the attention of a wayward
world.
>>>
>>>The hurrendous rains may,  and I do say may, be storms of adveristy
>>>allowed to happen by God in the great scheme of things to call us back to
Him.
>>>
>>>As far as my lack of sleep, I said perhaps I should be praying which led
>>>to the rains which led to the though about the harry potter books.
>>>
>>>If somebody can shed some light on the fact that this dude who wrote all
>>>these books is a believer and there is some kind of embeded symbolism
>>>that we believers are to pick up, I have reserved the rite to not read
them.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>"Pray, pray, pray!" - Pray without ceasing. (1 Th 5:17)
>>
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