Then I guess we are in good company because I sometimes feel I wrote the 
book on stubornness.

Virgie and lady Hoshi
doing business at

www.vunderwood.ktostemtech.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Wisdom Wisbanger


>I have first hand knowledge on being stubborn :).
>
> Brad
>
>
> At 06:21 PM 7/11/2007, you wrote:
>>Well Brad,
>>You did a good job and I wanted to say thanks for your time and effort. 
>>Some of us are hard headed you know.
>>
>>Virgie and lady Hoshi
>>doing business at
>>
>>www.vunderwood.ktostemtech.com
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:53 PM
>>Subject: Re: Wisdom Wisbanger
>>
>>
>>>Virgie,
>>>
>>>Reading Proverbs 3 you'll see all I did was just be a Parrot with good 
>>>hearing and a beak  that can repeat and form words ;:. Or in this case 
>>>feet that can type. You can't go wrong quoting God's word :). Wisdom is 
>>>such a wide and varied thing, no wonder we have 31 chapters dedicated to 
>>>its quick reference. Lots to learn and with wisdom as the ammo, our lives 
>>>are like a moving target.
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>At 11:01 AM 7/9/2007, you wrote:
>>>>Hey Brad,
>>>>You are on a roll!  Another awesome post, I appreciate the way you put 
>>>>it all together.
>>>>
>>>>Virgie and lady Hoshi
>>>>doing business at
>>>>
>>>>www.vunderwood.ktostemtech.com
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "B Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:58 AM
>>>>Subject: Wisdom Wisbanger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Reading this morning I originally was drawn to the reward of sweet 
>>>>>sleep and no fear of the enemy suddenly coming upon us and wanted to 
>>>>>draw attention to that but so much more is offered. What then are the 
>>>>>rewards of wisdom? As you know parts of God's word are metaphorical and 
>>>>>others are literal. For instance when God talks about wisdom calling 
>>>>>out in the streets and that she's waiting at the gate of the city and 
>>>>>so forth, well there isn't  really a woman thousands of years old who 
>>>>>goes by  the name of Wisdom standing at the city limits of every city 
>>>>>in the world. So it is a metaphor showing God's wisdom is everywhere, 
>>>>>in every situation, and we need only look and listen for it, and of 
>>>>>course follow it. There are times however when God says things like do 
>>>>>not reprove a scorner or you will receive disgrace. We know that is a 
>>>>>literal statement. He gives us the ability to discern metaphor from 
>>>>>literal if we only ask, I know this because His Word says so and 
>>>>>personal experience has proven it to me. So knowing that information 
>>>>>what then are the benefits of wisdom? And by wisdom, it is not intended 
>>>>>to mean our own wisdom, that is our own thoughts grounded in our own 
>>>>>devices and interests, but that of God's wisdom instilled in us and we 
>>>>>then use it.  What then can we look with anticipation and graceful 
>>>>>expectation to receive from finding, seeking and using God's wisdom?
>>>>>
>>>>>If you were to hear wisdom being advertised in an infomercial on TV 
>>>>>today, it might sound something like this...
>>>>>
>>>>>"Today we're offering a special price on our Wisdom Whizbanger! We're 
>>>>>really out doing ourselves this time folks, never before have we 
>>>>>offered such a deal. If you order today here's what you will get!! 
>>>>>Extended life! That's right folks we literally can extend your life by 
>>>>>not only days but years! And what good would an extended life be if it 
>>>>>was a life filled with fear and strife? So we're also tossing in a life 
>>>>>of peace. That's right. Peace. Not only will you be able to live longer 
>>>>>but you will live longer, with more peace as well. And that's not all. 
>>>>>If you order today at this special offer you will also receive the 
>>>>>ability to enjoy favor with God your creator as well as your fellow 
>>>>>man! I know, I know many have asked us how we can afford to be so 
>>>>>generous but we can't believe it either! We must be poor business 
>>>>>people to be offering all of this. But. I want to tell you there's 
>>>>>more! Yes more. If you call now while our operators are standing by we 
>>>>>will toss in not one, not two, but three, yes three additional gifts 
>>>>>for ordering today. Along with a long peaceable life of favor with god 
>>>>>and man you will also receive wealth, riches and honor! We've really 
>>>>>gone over the edge this time folks, we can't believe it ourselves! Now 
>>>>>if you... wait a minute. I'm getting a call from our CEO... please 
>>>>>excuse me for just one second. 'Yes Charlie what can I do for you? You 
>>>>>kidding! Are you serious! They are not going to believe this, are you 
>>>>>sure about this? Well, OK then. Thanks I'll tell them'. Sorry for the 
>>>>>interruption folks but you won't believe this, that was our CEO on the 
>>>>>phone and, someone hit me so I know I'm not dreaming because not only 
>>>>>are we offering a long peaceable life complete with favor of God and 
>>>>>man along with wealth, riches and honor... I can't believe he's doing 
>>>>>this... my CEO just instructed me that for those  who order right now 
>>>>>you will receive a life of straight paths, correction by a loving 
>>>>>Father and that's not all you also will receive..."
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, OK. Enough with the infomercial bit :) I think you get the hint. As 
>>>>>cheesy as that staged infomercial was, it yet carries truth in what god 
>>>>>will give us by seeking wisdom. One very important thing I didn't 
>>>>>include in the bit was this...
>>>>>
>>>>>Keep sound wisdom and discretion, so they will be life to your soul and 
>>>>>adornment to your neck. Then you will walk in your way securely and 
>>>>>your foot will not stumble. When you lie down, you will not be afraid; 
>>>>>when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet. Do not be afraid of sudden 
>>>>>fear nor of the onslaught of the wicked when it comes; For the LORD 
>>>>>will be your confidence and will keep your foot from being caught.
>>>>>
>>>>>So if God's Word can be taken literal we know that seeking and 
>>>>>obtaining wisdom and understanding, we know then that we can be secure, 
>>>>>confident and sleep a sweet sleep without fear and interruption. The 
>>>>>gift of wisdom is salvation, it is there for the taking, we only need 
>>>>>to decide to grasp on to what has already been given us and reap the 
>>>>>rewards of the offer. One difference between salvation and wisdom is 
>>>>>there are times in life when  we need to decide to apply wisdom. In 
>>>>>salvation it is a gift in which we only choose to grasp on to and the 
>>>>>Lord does the saving. With wisdom, we grasp on to the precepts in our 
>>>>>given situations and yes God does the rewarding or sees to it that we 
>>>>>do have favor with Himself and man that we do have riches, wealth, 
>>>>>peace and all wisdom promises in His Word. But we do need to decide to 
>>>>>use it, to grasp on, to apply it to our lives, to hold our situations 
>>>>>up to the light of God through His gift of wisdom, knowledge and 
>>>>>understanding. Imagine if you told your son to run to the grocery store 
>>>>>and get a loaf of bread. He then asks well how do I get there. So you 
>>>>>give him some written instructions. He runs and gets the bread then 
>>>>>runs off doing whatever. Then you ask him to run to the same store and 
>>>>>get some milk. He asks again how to get there.  So you point out that 
>>>>>you gave him written instructions. "Oh yeah, I forgot" he says.  Goes 
>>>>>off, comes back with the milk and goes about his business. Later you 
>>>>>ask him to get some eggs from the store, and again he asks how to get 
>>>>>there. Soon it would get a bit irritating would it not?  We would 
>>>>>wonder why isn't he using his knowledge of what I gave him instead of 
>>>>>continually asking me over and over how to get there. Years ago I was 
>>>>>being counseled by a wise man of God with some great insight and 
>>>>>application of God's Word and I was just learning how to apply God's 
>>>>>word to my life. He said seeking God  in prayer for things in life, for 
>>>>>direction is of course needed but praying about whether to  put salad 
>>>>>forks out with the meal is just irritating and not necessary. Obviously 
>>>>>he was exaggerating to make the point that some things we have been 
>>>>>given a brain, as well wisdom to use as a team towards our situations 
>>>>>in life. I'll end with a precept which is kind of a joke at the same 
>>>>>time. A pastor once gave this sermon and he did a wonderful job of it. 
>>>>>Folks came to him after the service, shook his hand vigorously and said 
>>>>>how wonderful it was and all that and he smiled calmly and said thank 
>>>>>you. The following Sunday the pastor gave the same sermon. Folks 
>>>>>cordially smiled, yawned  and nodded as he gave the sermon and when he 
>>>>>was done they again said how nice it was, shook hands with a slightly 
>>>>>looser grip this time,  and smiled with a bit of forced lips. The next 
>>>>>Sunday the pastor gave the very same sermon. Well the elders began to 
>>>>>wonder if there wasn't something wrong with the pastor. One more week 
>>>>>went by and dang nabit if he didn't do it yet again. Well finally the 
>>>>>elders took the pastor aside after the service and asked him, "Umm. 
>>>>>Pastor? Umm. are you aware you've given the same exact sermon, uh, 
>>>>>several weeks in a row now?"
>>>>>
>>>>>He replied. "Yes I know I have. And I'm going to keep giving it until 
>>>>>you folks begin to actually do it".
>>>>>
>>>>>I read one of the articles  on a link Phil gave us to look at from 
>>>>>George Muller I think was his name. I really recommend the article 
>>>>>which talks about reading the Word of God and not so much man's books. 
>>>>>That is  not to say teachings, encouragements and etc. are not helpful, 
>>>>>but it is God's Word that can teach itself if you dig in and that ought 
>>>>>be the stable of your instructional diet. Nothing replaces His Word.
>>>>>
>>>>>Brad