You know you guys, you kind of are making me sick.
None of us wants to see frivolous suits. Why though, do you all immediately
assume it is the blind guy or organization in the wrong? I don't care if
it's NFB, ACB, or the little sisters of the blind poor, shouldn't we at
least keep an open mind when one of our own says there's a ADA problem?
Believe me, the ADA bashers and the ADA resisters have plenty of ammunition
and support of their own without our adding to it. Some of us who
immediately go "test" the claim, seem to be more trying to prove how
wonderfully adapted we are as individuals to cope with our blindness through
technology, then really seeking truth. Target, who I might point out, has
been assailed in the last couple of years on a number of fronts where they
have shown less than stellar sensitivity, has had nearly a year to correct
this problem. I help maintain web sites as part of my job, it doesn't take
a year to fix something this small. That's just plain intransigence.
Does anyone remember how long it has taken to get Adobe on board with
access? Some companies just figure they are so big they can out last or out
spend you. Or maybe they are just stupid. Either way, if they are breaking
the law, then a person has every right to pursue them without our bogging
them down.
Bill
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Fw: Article: Target Corporation sued for
discriminating against persons who are blind
I recently purchased something from www.amazon.com and did not have much
difficulty. If Target is using the same interface as Amazon, this sounds
like another Southwest Airlines type of case. I suspect Target was chosen
more for the size of the store than anything else. Having dealt with DRA in
the past, I would not be surprised since it is the type of high-profile,
large-payout case which they are famous for.
I do not have any problem with going after companies which have inaccessible
websites. However, if the Target website is as accessible as Amazon.com, we
are just shooting ourselves in the foot again like we did with the Southwest
Airlines debacle.
At the time of that lawsuit, the claim was that the site was inaccessible.
A month before the lawsuit, I had purchased a round trip ticket on the site,
and I use JFW. In court, the argument, as I remember it, became something
like, yes we can use it, but it is very difficult. In other words, access
is there. This type of action only serves to weaken us overall as others
learn to not take us so seriously when we have actual access barriers.
David Chittenden
Change is the only constant in the universe
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Hoad
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Fw: Article: Target Corporation sued for
discriminating against persons who are blind
Certainly each story has two sides.
However, in cases like this its important to realize that when negotiations
fail, lawsuits and their filing and litigation costs time, stress and money.
They are often settled by a simple "fix" but---think of it this way, if you
have been unable to purchase something as easily and expeditiously as your
"nondisabled" neighbor, your rights have been denied---the ADA is clear that
retail establishments must serve us all!
Unfortunately, web access needs a push!
Its easier to just "let it go" than it is to pursue it. We can be pushed
out of participation by not acting on these issues.
posting from Emma's Family Farm
Windsor Maine;
Steve Hoad
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