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Terri Hedgpeth <[log in to unmask]>
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Terri Hedgpeth <[log in to unmask]>
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Harry, 
Sorry to say that as a totally blind Vista and XP user, I can tell by
your email that you are not operating from your own experience with
Vista. The only reason I am responding is because there are novice users
out there that might read your email and be scared to even try Vista. 

As someone else said in an earlier post, you should speak from the voice
of your own experience and not rely on others off-the-cuff observations.
Vista has tree view, menus, Windows key that launches the Start menu,
and yes the desktop. Truth be told, for a beginner, Vista is probably
easier to learn and use then XP. 

Don't you remember how every one panicked over DOS dominating over Lynx;
then (with good reason) Windows 311 and 95 over ruling DOS; oh then
there was 98, no way did users want to leave good oh 95; then 2000 to
XP, and on it goes. 

Also, although I am not a Mac fan, but I have played with it enough to
say based on my observations and personal experience, Macs are quite
easy to learn and use. There is just issues around accessing Office
2007. 





Dr. Terri Hedgpeth
Academic Research Professional
CUbiC #376, iCare
(480) 727-8133 V
(480) 965-1885 Fax
CUbiC.asu.edu
http://www.fulton.asu.edu/fulton/


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [VICUG-L] more on XP, Vista, the Mac, and Linux, why talk about
this stuff anyway?

Hi all,
I read everybody's feedback, and thank you all for your responses.
Here's why I wanted to bring all this up anyway.  Many folks who use
computers (both disabled and nondisabled), have not liked Vista, and
Microsoft knows this, because they're losing money on this, so, in 2010,
they will come out with a new operating system, called Windows 7, and
who knows what it will look like.  I hope it looks like xp, because it's
so easy to use, with it's desktop, and menu structure, and of course, xp
is very stable, compared to vista.
We will all have to decide what we'll do, for operating systems when the
computers we are using now, well, shal we say, kick the bucket.  So, we
need to start thinking about it as blind computer users, even more,
because as you all do, I depend on computers for most of the activities
I do daily.
So, for us, it's not just a passing fancy, of, "oh who cares what I'll
use."  We need to care about the future and what we'll use, and begin to
prepare now to switch in the future, whenever that will be.
Now, if Windows 7 is to our liking as blind computer users, then we're
set, but, if not, then what will we do?  So, instead of waiting till
then, we all need to begin thinking about that day, and preparing, (at
least if you like me, are an xp user), about what we'll do.
Now, if any of you have knowledge about windows 7, let us know what you
know about it.  That will help people to make decisions.
As far as Vista is concerned, I don't get into tree views, so, that's
out for me.  I want what xp is, a desktop, and a menu structure.
As for Mac, I don't like the finder.  I want a desktop, and menus, just
like xp.
What if it's a new user, who doesn't know anything about computers?  The
mac and vista, are just way beyond them, because remember folks, this
person, (whoever he/she is), has just turned on their computer, so let's
put ourselves in their place.  They want it as easy to use as possible,
and that's why xp is so good, because it's easy to use.  There's a
desktop, everything's there, right in front of ya.
Now, for Linux, there are 4 audio files you can listen to, and I will
mention even more, if I find them on the web.  But, for now, here's 4
you can listen to.
The first is from main menu, 7 May, 2003.



http://www.acbradio.org/archives/mainmenu/mm1374.mp3



then, the main menu from 14 May, 2003



http://www.acbradio.org/archives/mainmenu/mm1382.mp3



then, the 3rd part, from Main menu for 21 May 2003



http://www.acbradio.org/archives/mainmenu/mm1393.mp3



and the final main menu, from 11 June 2003,



http://www.acbradio.org/archives/mainmenu/mm1423.mp3



So folks, that's all I have for now.  If I come up with more, I'll let
you all know.
Harry


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