Mari,

Wait until we get to the lesson that teaches on the place believing and
receiving and doubting are explained.  That should clearup what appears to
be a point of confusion at the moment.

Phil.



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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Lesson 3 - The Force Of Faith


> So then, Phil, if I have understood correctly, faith and doubt have
> no place in the same prayer? If I were to pray for my sight to be
> restored, I must not doubt at all? For me, so far at any rate, this
> is an impossible suggestion.
>
> So then, I ask again.  Have I misunderstood completely or not?
>
> IN HIS MATCHLESS NAME,
>
> purple Mari
>
>
>
> At 11:28 AM 5/30/2007, you wrote:
> >Lesson Three.
> >
> >II.  The Operation Of Faith.
> >
> >      This is going to be a rather detailed teaching so I trust
> >you will review this lesson a great deal before making a judgment
> >call.  We are going to examine what Jesus taught on faith.  I
> >will begin by quoting an entire passage related to the topic of
> >faith based upon His disciples interests.
> >
> >Mark 11:22-24
> >22  And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
> >23  For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this
> >mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and
> >shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things
> >which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he
> >saith.
> >24  Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when
> >ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
> >
> >      Something that needs to be pointed out is what happen just
> >prior to this teaching on faith.  So let me quote this passage in
> >order to offer a complete picture of why our Lord's disciples
> >wanted their faith increased.
> >
> >Mark 11:12-14
> >12  And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was
> >hungry:
> >13  And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if
> >haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he
> >found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
> >14  And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee
> >hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
> >
> >Continuing the same story but skipping a few verses.
> >
> >Mark 11:19-21
> >19  And when even was come, he went out of the city.
> >20  And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree
> >dried up from the roots.
> >21  And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master,
> >behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.
> >
> >      Upon reading these two passages, it seems clear to me that
> >faith works in a spiritual element or environment or what I
> >sometimes refer to as a spiritual envelope.  A fish, for example,
> >does fine in the water but out of water, he is short lived.  A
> >bird is well protected when flying but ground him, or take away
> >his trees, phone wires, fences, or roof tops, and he suddenly
> >becomes prey.  Likewise, the law of gravity is the element in
> >which we, as human beings, function normally.  Increase that law
> >dramatically, or remove it all together, and we suddenly find
> >ourselves unable to function at all because we are out of our
> >element.  Two people, therefore, can stand several feet apart, and
> >toss a ball back and forth to each other, thereby defying gravity.
> >If they separate a little too far away, the ball drops short of
> >its intended goal because the two people have stretched their
> >operating element beyond limits.  I tend to think of faith in
> >these terms.  It operates within the law of God, that is, faith
> >defies the natural law of man.  Unbelief is the result.  Trying to
> >implement faith outside of God's law, reduces faith to human
> >terms.  that decreases faith to what we would call confidence and
> >confidence is a poor substitute for effective working faith.  to
> >expand upon this idea, just think of Heaven.  That is a complete,
> >unadulterated, element where faith works every single time without
> >fail.  Why?  Because it is a glorified state of being.  Our
> >unregenerate minds and our fleshy environments will no longer
> >exist.  Only Heaven will be our environment.  Faith will never
> >have to be spoke in the glory Land.  the question then becomes,
> >how do we use faith within the natural realm when it only works in
> >the spiritual element for which it was designed?  The answer is
> >found within Mark 11:22-24 where Jesus is literally teaching His
> >disciples the element in which faith operates.  It is so clear,
> >you will be frustrated with yourself for not seeing it in the
> >first place on your own.  Don't feel bad because when I saw it, I
> >felt silly, too.  In the next lesson, we are going to begin
> >looking at what Jesus taught and how it applies.
> >
> >
> >end Of Lesson Three.
> >
> >
>
>
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