I just think one parent should stay home it doesn't matter which sex
I just think it is barbaric to send both parents to war especially
for this type of action.
At 06:24 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
>well linda, we never had the women joining as they do
>now. in precious wars usually a woman in the military
>was to be a care giver to the wounded, but, with
>"equal rights"....
>
>--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > uniquely horrible in that it is an entirely
> > unnecessary war just my
> > opinion and it is more brutal because of the length
> > of time people
> > are serving and the fact that Bush will send two
> > parents in there
> > causing incredible worry to the families and
> > children. We never did
> > things like that before. I guess I just kinda hope
> > we've learned
> > something since the Spanish inquisition and it's
> > interesting that's
> > the one you mention since we have Abu Ghraib.
> > Everyone responds to trauma differently. My father
> > never raised his
> > voice or his hand against anyone and he is a war
> > hero so I am not of
> > course talking about everyone.
> > In the child abuse work I do, I see some highly
> > resilient people who
> > have good lives to people who are just destroyed by
> > the events even
> > to the point of taking their own life. We will be
> > paying for this
> > war emotionally and socially for a couple of
> > generations. Of course
> > not everyone but some returning vets won't be able
> > to cope and they
> > will act out in violence towards themselves and
> > those closest to
> > them. It is well known there is a high incidence of
> > domestic violence
> > inside the services.
> > And it bugs me that we primarily report our soldiers
> > deaths but
> > seldom report the number of displaced Iraquis
> > because of our actions.
> > Anyhow this is taking away from the terrible
> > inhumane way that woman
> > was treated. We'll never know if she would have
> > lived with prompt tratement.
> >
> >
> > At 04:40 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> > >Linda, if your logic were to be applied across the
> > board, there wouldn't
> > >be any vets who could go back to civilian lives
> > and get on with them.
> > >Remember that we have been in wars since this
> > country was founded and
> > >there is nothing new about the traumas of war (well
> > except for our
> > >capacity to quickly kill each other). If you think
> > our brutality in
> > >Iraq is uniquely horrible, may I refer you to any
> > history of the Spanish
> > >Inquisition or the Roman Empire? Violence, alas,
> > is nothing new.
> > >
> > >Having said that I do agree with you that we don't
> > need to be in Iraq
> > >because we need to spend our money where it's
> > better put to use, and I
> > >think we have done very little good by invading
> > Iraq.
> > >
> > >Kat
> > >
> > >Linda Walker wrote:
> > > > Many of the soldiers being deployed are at
> > Schofield next to where I
> > > > live. I feel like I live on a military base
> > here. We rent units to
> > > > soldiers and to private contractors who are also
> > serving there. I have
> > > > been dealing with their problems as they come
> > home. I am sure I have
> > > > talked to more of them than most American
> > civilians. I have often
> > > > talked to them about whether or not they are
> > going to re enlist and
> > > > other things. Believe me when I say these young
> > men and women are
> > > > coming back very distraught and destroyed and
> > they cannot seek any
> > > > psychological counseling without it negatively
> > impacting their service
> > > > record.
> > > >
> > > > At 01:42 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> > > >> Linda, I think your politics are showing. I
> > don't believe this fellow=
> > > >> was a veteran of any current conflict. The
> > article referred to a
> > > >> 'brie=
> > > >> f army stint'. I do believe the Guardian was
> > trying to capitalize on=
> > > >> his military service and subliminally link his
> > military service to his=
> > > >> crime without having to outright establish the
> > connection--but that's=
> > > >> typical of yellow journalism, both liberal and
> > conservative. PTSD may=
> > > >> tear a mind down, but it doesn't turn whole
> > groups of vets into
> > > >> cold-he=
> > > >> arted brutes. How many vets do you know? How
> > many have you talked to=
> > > >> about their experiences--or are you just
> > repeating what you've been
> > > >> tol=
> > > >> d by the proponents of a particular political
> > agenda?
> > > >> =20
> > > >> War is brutal to soldier and civilian alike,
> > but you can't make
> > > >> sweeping=
> > > >> generalizations about post-bellum behavior.
> > If your prediction were=
> > > >> based in fact, we would have never recovered
> > from the second World
> > > >> War.=
> > > >> My father, who served in two conflicts, Korea
> > and Vietnam, would have=
> > > >> taken out his war-generated angst on his
> > family, right? A retired US=
> > > >> Marine Lieutenant Colonel, he is the kindest,
> > most gentle man I've
> > > >> ever=
> > > >> known. =20
> > > >> =20
> > > >> War is supposed to be brutal, violent. It is
> > such an admission of
> > > >> failu=
> > > >> re and is testimony to the true nature of
> > humankind. The military is=
> > > >> a blunt instrument--a hammer, where everything
> > is a nail. But nobody=
> > > >> wants war less than the best soldier.
> > > >> =20
> > > >> Three years is harsh? In most US states this
> > would be conspiracy to
> > > >> man=
> > >
> > >
> > > >> slaughter and would have received 10-15 with
> > parole at 7. I highly
> > > >> doub=
> > > >> t that castigation from his neighbors is going
> > to enhance his
> > > >> contrition.
> > > >> =20
> > > >> Kyle Cleveland
> > > >>
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