uniquely horrible in that it is an entirely unnecessary war just my
opinion and it is more brutal because of the length of time people
are serving and the fact that Bush will send two parents in there
causing incredible worry to the families and children. We never did
things like that before. I guess I just kinda hope we've learned
something since the Spanish inquisition and it's interesting that's
the one you mention since we have Abu Ghraib.
Everyone responds to trauma differently. My father never raised his
voice or his hand against anyone and he is a war hero so I am not of
course talking about everyone.
In the child abuse work I do, I see some highly resilient people who
have good lives to people who are just destroyed by the events even
to the point of taking their own life. We will be paying for this
war emotionally and socially for a couple of generations. Of course
not everyone but some returning vets won't be able to cope and they
will act out in violence towards themselves and those closest to
them. It is well known there is a high incidence of domestic violence
inside the services.
And it bugs me that we primarily report our soldiers deaths but
seldom report the number of displaced Iraquis because of our actions.
Anyhow this is taking away from the terrible inhumane way that woman
was treated. We'll never know if she would have lived with prompt tratement.
At 04:40 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
>Linda, if your logic were to be applied across the board, there wouldn't
>be any vets who could go back to civilian lives and get on with them.
>Remember that we have been in wars since this country was founded and
>there is nothing new about the traumas of war (well except for our
>capacity to quickly kill each other). If you think our brutality in
>Iraq is uniquely horrible, may I refer you to any history of the Spanish
>Inquisition or the Roman Empire? Violence, alas, is nothing new.
>
>Having said that I do agree with you that we don't need to be in Iraq
>because we need to spend our money where it's better put to use, and I
>think we have done very little good by invading Iraq.
>
>Kat
>
>Linda Walker wrote:
> > Many of the soldiers being deployed are at Schofield next to where I
> > live. I feel like I live on a military base here. We rent units to
> > soldiers and to private contractors who are also serving there. I have
> > been dealing with their problems as they come home. I am sure I have
> > talked to more of them than most American civilians. I have often
> > talked to them about whether or not they are going to re enlist and
> > other things. Believe me when I say these young men and women are
> > coming back very distraught and destroyed and they cannot seek any
> > psychological counseling without it negatively impacting their service
> > record.
> >
> > At 01:42 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> >> Linda, I think your politics are showing. I don't believe this fellow=
> >> was a veteran of any current conflict. The article referred to a
> >> 'brie=
> >> f army stint'. I do believe the Guardian was trying to capitalize on=
> >> his military service and subliminally link his military service to his=
> >> crime without having to outright establish the connection--but that's=
> >> typical of yellow journalism, both liberal and conservative. PTSD may=
> >> tear a mind down, but it doesn't turn whole groups of vets into
> >> cold-he=
> >> arted brutes. How many vets do you know? How many have you talked to=
> >> about their experiences--or are you just repeating what you've been
> >> tol=
> >> d by the proponents of a particular political agenda?
> >> =20
> >> War is brutal to soldier and civilian alike, but you can't make
> >> sweeping=
> >> generalizations about post-bellum behavior. If your prediction were=
> >> based in fact, we would have never recovered from the second World
> >> War.=
> >> My father, who served in two conflicts, Korea and Vietnam, would have=
> >> taken out his war-generated angst on his family, right? A retired US=
> >> Marine Lieutenant Colonel, he is the kindest, most gentle man I've
> >> ever=
> >> known. =20
> >> =20
> >> War is supposed to be brutal, violent. It is such an admission of
> >> failu=
> >> re and is testimony to the true nature of humankind. The military is=
> >> a blunt instrument--a hammer, where everything is a nail. But nobody=
> >> wants war less than the best soldier.
> >> =20
> >> Three years is harsh? In most US states this would be conspiracy to
> >> man=
>
>
> >> slaughter and would have received 10-15 with parole at 7. I highly
> >> doub=
> >> t that castigation from his neighbors is going to enhance his
> >> contrition.
> >> =20
> >> Kyle Cleveland
> >>
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