I know nothing about British service but in America we are using
convicted criminals quite often. The judge will say well boy would
you rather go to prison or in the service.
At 01:42 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
>Linda, I think your politics are showing. I don't believe this fellow=
> was a veteran of any current conflict. The article referred to a 'brie=
>f army stint'. I do believe the Guardian was trying to capitalize on=
> his military service and subliminally link his military service to his=
> crime without having to outright establish the connection--but that's=
> typical of yellow journalism, both liberal and conservative. PTSD may=
> tear a mind down, but it doesn't turn whole groups of vets into cold-he=
>arted brutes. How many vets do you know? How many have you talked to=
> about their experiences--or are you just repeating what you've been tol=
>d by the proponents of a particular political agenda?
>=20
>War is brutal to soldier and civilian alike, but you can't make sweeping=
> generalizations about post-bellum behavior. If your prediction were=
> based in fact, we would have never recovered from the second World War.=
> My father, who served in two conflicts, Korea and Vietnam, would have=
> taken out his war-generated angst on his family, right? A retired US=
> Marine Lieutenant Colonel, he is the kindest, most gentle man I've ever=
> known. =20
>=20
>War is supposed to be brutal, violent. It is such an admission of failu=
>re and is testimony to the true nature of humankind. The military is=
> a blunt instrument--a hammer, where everything is a nail. But nobody=
> wants war less than the best soldier.
>=20
>Three years is harsh? In most US states this would be conspiracy to man=
>slaughter and would have received 10-15 with parole at 7. I highly doub=
>t that castigation from his neighbors is going to enhance his contrition.
>=20
>Kyle Cleveland
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Cerebral Palsy List on behalf of Linda Walker
>Sent: Mon 10/29/2007 4:20 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: disgusting behavior
>
>
>
>War brutalizes people and so get ready for a crime wave like we have
>never seen as these traumatized soldiers come home. Disgusting isn''t
>strong enough.
>
>At 10:08 AM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> >*Martin Wainw=3D
> >
> >Jail for ex-soldier who urinated on dying disabled woman=3D0A=3D0A*Mart=
>in Wainw=3D
> >right=3D0ASaturday October 27, 2007=3D0AThe Guardian <http://www.guardi=
>an .co.u=3D>k/>*=3D0A=3D0AA drunken former soldier who urinated on a
>disabled neigh=
>bour as =3D
> >she lay=3D0Adying after a fall in the street was jailed for three years=
> yeste=3D
> >rday and=3D0Atold that he and his friends had shamed a town. Anthony=
> Anderson=3D
> >, 27, and a=3D0Agroup of friends who filmed the humiliation of Christin=
>e Laki=3D
> >nski on a=3D0Amobile phone, have been cold-shouldered in Hartlepool and=
> turne=3D
> >d away from=3D0Ashops and neighbours' homes.=3D0A=3D0AThey were castiga=
>ted by a j=3D
> >udge and police at a brief court hearing which=3D0Awas told that their=
> "almos=3D
> >t unbelievable" behaviour had turned the lesson of=3D0Athe Good Samarit=
>an on =3D
> >its head. Ms Lakinski, a 50-year-old bent by a spine=3D0Adeformity and=
> bullie=3D
> >d for most of her life, had also been covered in shaving=3D0Afoam and=
> kicked =3D
> >to "make her wake up".=3D0A=3D0AArticle continues<http://www.guardian=
> .co.uk/cr=3D>ime/ article/0, ,2200320, 00.html#article_
> continue>=3D0A------------=
> -------=3D
> >-- ---------=3D0A------------ --------- ---------=3D0ADuring the episod=
>e in Jul=3D
> >y, which lasted almost half an hour, none of the=3D0Agroup called an=
> ambulanc=3D
> >e to help Ms Lakinski, who had collapsed while=3D0Acarrying shopping=
> home and=3D
> > hit her head. Only 20 minutes later, when=3D0AAnderson, the phone-fil=
>mer Sim=3D
> >on Whitehead and several others had dressed to=3D0Ago out to a nightclu=
>b, was=3D
> > a 999 call finally made. Paramedics were unable=3D0Ato revive Ms Laki=
>nski, b=3D
> >ut the call enabled police to trace one of the=3D0Agroup, Scott Clement=
>, whic=3D
> >h led to Anderson's arrest at a local club within=3D0Ahours.=3D0A=3D0AH=
>e admitted=3D
> > outraging public decency and apologised through his barrister at=3D0A=
>Teessid=3D
> >e crown court for actions which he said he still could not explain.=3D0=
>A=3D0ATh=3D
> >e court heard that Ms Lakinski lived opposite a house in Raby Road whic=
>h=3D0A=3D
> >Anderson shared with another man, who had been smoking cannabis and dri=
>nkin=3D
> >g=3D0Aheavily with him all afternoon. Anderson went out in shorts with=
> a towe=3D
> >l=3D0Around his waist when he saw Ms Lakinski slumped on the pavement.=
>=3D0A=3D0AS=3D
> >ue Jacobs, prosecuting, said Anderson first kicked the helpless woman=
> and=3D
> >=3D0Awhen she groaned but failed to move or open her eyes, fetched a=
> bowl of=3D
> >=3D0Awater and threw it over her. "Apparently urged on by the fact that=
> Scott=3D
> >=3D0AClement and Simon Whitehead found this amusing, you then stated=
> that you=3D
> >=3D0Awere going to urinate on her. Simon Whitehead cleared space on his=
> mobil=3D
> >e=3D0Aand recorded Anderson urinating all over Christine's body." One=
> of the =3D
> >group=3D0Ashouted: 'This is YouTube material.'"=3D0A=3D0AJudge Peter=
> Fox, the rec=3D
> >order of Middlesbrough, told Anderson he had plumbed=3D0Athe depths of=
> degrad=3D
> >ation and brought shame on the people of Hartlepool. He=3D0Asaid: "This=
> court=3D
> > can do nothing to repair what you did, only pass a=3D0Asentence that=
> is righ=3D
> >t in all the circumstances - three years imprisonment. "=3D0A=3D0AAnder=
>son, une=3D
> >mployed after brief army service, has previous convictions for=3D0Aille=
>gally =3D
> >importing cigarettes, obstructing a police officer and driving=3D0Aoffe=
>nces.=3D
> >=3D0A =3D0A~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=3D0Ahttp://www.zazzle.com=
>/TamarMag*=3D
> >=3D0ATamar Mag [log in to unmask]
>marmag=3D0A~=3D
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A----- Original=
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> >=3D0AFrom: Kendall D. Corbett <[log in to unmask]>=3D0ATo: C-PAL=
>SY@LISTS=3D
> >ERV.ICORS.ORG=3D0ASent: Monday, October 29, 2007 12:20:28 PM=3D0ASubjec=
>t: Re: s=3D
> >onocur=3D0A=3D0AKen,=3D0A=3D0AIt's worth a shot, but good luck getting=
> insurance to=3D
> > cover it, as it's=3D0Astill listed as "experimental." I thought abou=
>t your =3D
> >arms when Janet's doc=3D0Afirst mentioned this.=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AOn 10/27/=
>07, ken barb=3D
> >er <[log in to unmask]> wrote:=3D0A>=3D0A> you know this might help=
> me. that i=3D
> >s what i have going=3D0A> on from my fingers to the neck from repetitiv=
>e stre=3D
> >ss.=3D0A> of course the government is blaming mine on cp,=3D0A> but,hop=
>efully i=3D
> >'ll win this last appeal.=3D0A>=3D0A> --=3D0A> Kendall=3D0A>=3D0A> An=
> unreasonable ma=3D
> >n (but my wife says that's redundant!)=3D0A>=3D0A> The reasonable man=
> adapts hi=3D
> >mself to the world; the unreasonable one=3D0A> persists in trying to=
> adapt th=3D
> >e world to himself. Therefore, all progress=3D0A> depends on the unreas=
>onable=3D
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