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I’m surprised that this BBC story is not being discussed and is taking a back seat to Zimbabwe which is not so far away:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6575585.stm


Intellectuals?  Some of the considerably less bright among them, like  to elevate themnselves by telling others how stupid or dumb etc they are. Well, I am not one of them and I’m going to push the send button without looking this over.

Maybe your intellectuals betray you because they are broke?

Money –doesn’t mean that much to me, but people, Human Rights and Justice certainly does.
I once quoted for Momodou Sidibeh, “Money is the root of all evil” and his reply was “It’s also a source of a lot of good.”

There is a dictum of Hillel which goes, "If I am not for myself, who is for me? and when I am for myself, what am I? and if not now, when?"

It’s pretty clear who “we” are. Without going too far (At least I know who I am and why I am here.) still the saying is entitled to some examination:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=+Hillel%3A+%E2%80%9CIf+I+am+not+for+myself

Here’s a very good example taken from the beginning of a lecture by Dr Yitzhak Benbaji he was kind enough to give me his lecture notes, when I  asked him for them, after the lecture:
http://www.paideia-eu.org/index.php?link=5&sublink=3&event=97

 He started the lecture with these words and at the end of this quotation, he asked the question that I also ask you today:
 He quoted a passage from J. David Velleman’s “A right to self-termination?”


“Getting cancer changed my feelings about people who smoke. 

I remember hearing a fellow philosopher expound, with a wave of his cigarette, on his right to choose whether to live and die smoking, or to quit and merely survive. I was just beginning a year of chemotherapy, and mere survival sounded pretty good to me. But I was the visiting speaker, and my hosts were unaware of my diagnosis. Several of them lit up after dinner as we listened to their colleague's disquisition -- they with amused familiarity, I with an outrage that surprised even me and would have baffled them, if I had dared to express it. That I didn't dare is a cause for regret even now, ten years after the fact.
………….

Listening to my host laugh at his future cancer, I wondered whether he realized how many others would share it. What I would have said on their behalf, however, wouldn't have expressed my strongest feelings, which were felt on my own behalf, in a sense that I couldn't articulate. I was somehow offended, insulted. Watching smoke curl from the lips of people unmindful of my mortality, I felt as I probably would feel listening to anti-Semitic remarks directed at another person by a speaker unaware that I, too, was a Jew. I was witnessing an insult to a group of which I was also a member. “
 
 The question he asked was “To which group was he also a member?”

You who know who you are free to answer the question… and of course, since I was there at the lecture (and even asked a question of my own) I know the answer too but would like to hear from you, because as soon as we have that answer right we’re on our way to the true discovery of who you are and what your responsibilities are. Did I say RIGHT ANSWER? In philosophy there  sometimes is sometimes more than one angle to a question even if posed by an infallible Pope who is waiting for the right answer, and as in philosophy, Judaism is not  dogmatic and dogma  and doctrine in that very  the Roman Catholic sense is  entirely absent from the Hebrew Faith. (in the Israeli army people don’t go around saluting one another.

So answer the question s’il vous plait.

 http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/courses/bioethics/Papers/Velleman.html


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> From: Suntou Touray <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/04/22 sö AM 07:53:03 CEST
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> Ämne: Re: Fwd: The 'war-for-own-land' in Africa is a reality
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> kabir , keep the fire burning . our intellectuals always betrays us. they can 
> only see from the other side.but still we have some who will stick with 
> us.globalisation is the biggest coloniser of all.what use to be yours is turn 
> against you, and you can't do any thing about it.privatisation derails 
> government powers .zimbabwe is a test ground if it fails ,the rest of the south 
> african governments will be in uter shock thus allowing our uncles to come up 
> again with another baby milk .. and believe me many will harb ( drink ) the 
> milk .
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