Haruna,

 

I think we did meet at the launching of the STGDP in Atlanta about three years ago. I was there with Joe Sambou and the rest of the folks. Remember that? Or maybe you didn't know I was Galleh. By the way, it's okay to call me Galleh. That's what my most intimate friends call me back home. My Boss Lamin Jatta thinks that he owns all the Fulas but of course it is the other way round.

 

Baba> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:02:17 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pa Ndery's Cruelty! Chapter 13, What will happen to gheran Senghore?> To: [log in to unmask]> > Hello Lamin, now that I know your name.> > [GDP I noticed that you always find some funny ways of calling people some > names. Like calling Baba Galleh Jallow, "Galleh."]> > No Lamin. My calling Baba, Galleh, indicates esteem and affinity for the man > even though I've never met him. Not comedy. And I only called you Paripanna > after searching for your name to no avail. I do effort to find appropriate > names to give proper ambiance to commentary. This occasion was serious however, > not funny. The reason will become apparent.> > "My Paripanna address came as a result of my frustration to create a yahoo > address using my own name. Too many Lamins." Lamin.> > How was I supposed to know that? So you changed your name just to get a > yahoo email address????? You might be one of those Gambians who has to have their > pictures regardless. And you thought Nderry was bad about that.> > "On a serious note:" Lamin.> > I was joking in the statements immediately above too. Fehr Dinkum.> > [FYI I was the last man standing when it comes to advising Pa Nderi.I will > repeat, Pa Nderi like I said, has an agenda and that is "Editor Mbye."] Lamin.> > You may be surprised to know that Pa Nderry himself has advised us that he > and Freedom have an agenda. I acknowledged that in my support of him and his > paper vis - "Freedom Online did not emerge from vacuous loafing". I enhanced > the statement to yield better understanding. Lamin, you will also agree with me > that newspapers and or tabloids all have an agenda. Some call it editorial > philosophy, some call it editorial stance/position. You also are aware that > in some places, newspapers endorse political candidates who best reflect that > agenda in their opinion. Therefore, a newspaper or an editor having an agenda > is not a new or pejorative phenomenon. The problem arises when we try to > qualify that agenda for them instead of allowing them to express it to us. What > I mean Lamin is that you have qualified Freedom's/Pa Nderry's agenda to be > "Editor Mbye". What privilege or authority do you rely on to qualify such > subject as agenda??? You see what I mean Lamin. I, like you, am aware that Pa > Nderry probably has an agenda as most or all newspapers or even tabloids do. The > difference between you and me here is that I am satisfied with that knowledge > and I may not venture to characterize that agenda for Nderry, but you feel > perfectly comfortable in going the extra mile so to speak. What guided my > restraint is value. Is it important or valuable for me to characterize Nderry's > agenda??? I determined no. Afterall that will have been mere conjecture. And > if the characterization were found to be true, the realization that whatever > the agenda was, Nderry had a right to it. PLUS; the fact that Nderry's agenda > is 'Editor Mbye' does not have a bearing on proclivity to commit crime > against another, which to my knowledge he or Freedom has not done yet. To the > extent you and my friend Yanks perceive hebdomadaire in't, I encouraged you to > send him well-phrased counsel. Why would I urge you in that direction? Because > you have shared with us you find Nderry narcissistic. Narcissism is not a > crime but it is a condition that may lead to sleight and or other offense > potentially criminal. And you will not get too far with a victimless narcissist with > anger. If you really believe Nderry to be narcissistic.> > "If you don't accept that," Lamin.> > It is not a question of whether I accept you view of Nderry or not. If it is > any comfort, I do not. But that is inconsequential as you will show me later.> > "all Editor Mbye knows about your Private life will be laid bare in the > freedom newspaper breaking news!!!!! tomorrow." Lamin.> > If you advise Nderry to publish it, then it is good that it is in the > Freedom breaking news swiftly and you must thank Nderry for acceding to your > request for its publication.> If you advised Nderry not to publish such and he does anyway, then it is > breach of confidentiality at best. But Lamin bear with me for a minute. If you > bear such disdain and distrust of the editor of Freedom, that ought to > possibly encourage cadence and circumspect in your private life. This is so that > should the National enquirer get to it first before Freedom, it's ultimate > publication will have been benign and possibly inspiring to others. Since 1942, > private lives had become public fodder. I found that out when I was born much > later. I think one problem I see is that we do not fully appreciate the gap > between Gambia's development as a nation and that of other nations. I'm not > saying that is the only cause for misunderstandings. It is a contributing cause > for parallax in perspectives.> > "He did it to Yanks and many more people." Lamin.> > I know that my good friend Yanks was aversed by Nderry's reporting and > possibly Abdoukarim and many more. I have urged and I continue to urge Nderry to > apologise for collateral aversions and sleight. That still stands. And whether > Nderry thinks he has not committed a crime and therefore owes no apologies > is immaterial. Generally I do not urge folk to apologise for crime. I solicit > apologies for more minor offenses of aversions and sleight. In that spirit, I > still urge Nderry to apologise to folk who have perceived such injury > issuing direcftly from his work and publication. Nderry still has not committed any > crime. He is best advised to apologise to Yanks, Karim, yourself, and any > who has perceived or innured injury as a direct result of his actions. If > Nderry does not apologise, I still support him and Freedom Online. I just happen > to know the apology will be extra-valuable for Nderry and Freedom.> > [If you call him to advice him he act up to win your trust so that your > share your private life to him and any day he turns against you, you make > breaking news.] Lamin.> > No Lamin Nderry is not this sinister. Besides I think he is too busy at > Freedom for such elaborate schemes. But you say he is narcissistic. A narcissist > is not capable of accruing value for him/herself through the actions or the > lives of others. That is a different pathos. Lamin, you and I understand that > Nderry is constantly under threats and pressures of other who wish him dead. > Now put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Then you get Haruna calling you to > advise you for calm. I think it will depend to a degree on how Haruna > advises you or how you yourself had perceived Haruna prior to his call. Is that > fair??? That will still not stop you from your ritual supplications before you > answer the phone call because you are narcissistic. What I share Lamin is that > we are probably focusing on the wrong themes to engage Nderry on if we feel > he has injured us in any way. What I see generally is that the method of > communion is deficient. And it could very well be true that you are positively > injured by Nderry's direct actions or inactions for all I know. We have already > placed Nderry on the short end of the stick. That in itself is cutaneous > armour for indifference and nonchalance. You're with me Lamin?> > [Pa Nderry is using his paper to bully innocent people in the same way > Jammeh is using all the institution of the government to bully Gambians.]> > I think you are in error here. A narcissist by his very nature is anathema > to bullying. Think about it for a minute. So he is either a narcissist or a > bully. And I do not compare Nderry to Yahya. Their resources for craft are > incomparable. That has an effect on project planning and implementation. But not > decrepitude.> > "His recklessness led to many people losing their jobs, detained and > tortured." Lamin.> > Lamin, if you look at this statement you shared, you have blamed Nderry for > the crimes of the terminator, detainer, and the torturer. You have also > admitted that Nderry's and the fortunes of this criminal are divergent in the main. > It therefore establishes that Nderry neither has the intent nor any affect > on the relationships between the criminal and his/her victims. Collateral.> > "But he don't care he said he is fighting a cause and there is going to be > blood." Lamin.> > I would take this as Nderry not having the capacity to reverse the > misfortunes of the criminal's victims and that Nderry, in remorse of the pain the > victims must have felt at the hands of their criminal, enjoins in the former's > battle. Nderry therefore is well-intentioned and good in the main. How you read > carelessness and recklessness in that is incomprehensible to me.> > [He mean it but he is not talking about his blood, he is talking about the > life of people he put on the line everyday.] Lamin.> > I think you read Nderry wrong here. Even if we agree with you Lamin, it > could be easily characterized as either banter in Nderry or a battle cry. The > battle you must now realise is honourable.> > [And you know what, if you are not blunt to him like you tried to recently, > he twist it to mean a compliment.] Lamin.> > No Lamin. I think you are a bit impatient. Nderry is as intelligent as you > and Yanks. I think you underestimate his acumen. That might be one of the > problems you're having with him. Remmember narcissists know themselves to a more > hightened degree than suicidal deviants.> > [Do you know that all the articles in the freedom newspaper purporting to be > quoting "Editor Mbye" in the third person are all done by Pa Nderry himself > doing a self interview."] Lamin.> > I don't see anything wrong with that do you?? If you're infact correct, I > say Nderry has a valuable skill in pantomimickry. We could have another Marcel > Marceau in the making. He must be appreciated and encouraged therefore. I > admired Marcel.> > [Reacting to the developments, our fearless Editor (Editor Mbye), said “ > Gheran sounds like a desperate man. I am here in Raleigh. I look forward to > seeing him. I fear only God. He is making the fool of himself by making such > threats... He made my day bad because since the murder of my mentor Deyda Hydara > by the Gambian Government, I have been tormented by such nightmares. I hate > killers and their supporters. He also disrupted my University classes. I could > hardly read, since he made the threats. I am not scared, but I felt bad that > a novice is threatening me in the land of Freedom. This is Un-American. > Gheran Senghore should be brought to book for his cowardly act. It's only cowards > who hide under the cover of dark to kill others." said MBai. > > The above quote is Pa Nderry quoting himself and describing himself fearless > in one paragraph and in the next one he is scare of death to the point of > getting restless and losing concentration to the point of disrupting his school > work. It is a dangerous situation to have an individual with all this crazy > personalities calling himself a journalist] Lamin.> > Lamin. Settle down for a moment. You have just described part of the genius > in Nderry in your submission. To assign malignant faculty and craziness to > this genius is itself suspect. Won't you afford Nderry some credit? You notice > here that Nderry was the subject of ridicule and malicious attacks by this > gentleman (Gheran). If my memory serves me right, the gentleman feigned > relationship to Nderry and proceeded to soil the family and character of Nderry. This > was Nderry's reaction to such character. I think if anyone is crazy or > dangerous, you must agree with me it is the subject gentleman, not Nderry. > Narcissists can also be victims of crime of other you know. And narcissists must be > protected by the same laws that prosecute criminals.> > [And Haruna you are damn right too- freedom newspaper is the mirror image of > Daily observer's gutter journalism.] Lamin.> > I did not mean that Lamin and I disagree with your analogy. Freedom is not a > mirror image of Daily Observer's gutter journalism. Freedom is antidote in > mine eyes.> > [With Jammeh at the head of Observer and Editor Mbye at the head of Freedom > news Paper.] No Lamin. You over-react.> > "God Bless Gambia!!" Lamin.> > I kinda like you for some reason. I don't know why yet. But until I know > why, I want to celebrate my new-found affinity. You are so excited Lamin, I'd > think you Joe Sambou. Every time you two speak, you'd think the sky is meeting > the earth and we're all about to get crushed unless we give you our farthings. > You two are good though. May God continue to bless you and I look forward to > hearing you more often.> > Masoud. MQJGDT. Darbo. Al Mutawakkil.> > > Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Paripanna,> > You may have a good point here. Although I don't view Pa Nderry as > narcissistic, I would discourage all online editors to make more economic > use of their > own pictures. Perhaps you could send a well-phrased advice to Pa Nderry > along those lines. I also know that Gambians have an affinity for pictures > and > the online papers cannot always come up with relevant pictures to their > stories.> > That reminds me. I introduced The GDp to a Gambian some while ago. She went > to the site and called me a couple of days later to advise me that I do not > have enough pictures there and she did not see mine in the marqee gallery. > Go > figure.> > Haruna. Forget all the other valuable information. We want our pictures and > we want them now.> By the way, did you know Tiger returned from Bayhill with Arnie's trophy??? > I felt sad for Bart Bryant. Tiger did it at the 18th with a 24ft birdie > putt. > The only one of its kind he made all weekend. He had to make that one though > for he would have lost in a playoff with Bryant. I was almost sure of it. > Al > Mu'umin.> > > In a message dated 3/16/2008 7:55:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [log in to unmask] writes:> > Yanks you damn right! Pa Nderry is very very cruel and narcissistic! Make > no > mistake about it, he will cut down everybody to keep his face on the paper > > because that is the only thing real I see in freedom and that is his > agenda-"Editor Mbye!" lol. If you don't accept how "Editor Mbye do > business you > will be decimated period and Yanks you know better. > By the way do you remember me?> > yanks dabo wrote: Pa Ndery's Cruelty! Chapter 13, > What will happen to Gheran Senghore?> > "If yahya Jammeh was or becomes a newspaper editor, his paper's contents > would be nothing more nor less to that of freedomnewspaper!"> Yanks Dabo, 16 March 2008> > Brethren Yanks> _________________________________________________________________> Who's friends with who and co-starred in what?> http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> > > > > ---------------------------------> Never miss a thing. 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