On May 31, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Wayne Wynn wrote:

> Every group/culture I have read or heard about, other than modern  
> humans, has considered themselves a part of nature. We got into  
> this mess by viewing ourselves as outside of, indeed superior to,  
> the rest of nature, and our salvation may require us to realize  
> that we are, indeed, part of nature.
>
> Buckminster Fuller said, "Everything is natural" because nature  
> permits it. Only some humans think we are above nature rather than  
> part of it, and that we conquer it rather than just discover it.
>
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Agreed that we are *as hunter gatherers* a vital piece of the whole.   
But I'd disagree with the idea that we're just another animal.   
Contrary to what we've been taught by cultural anthropologists the  
last hundred years, humans have always considered themselves the  
highest animal.  And we are, having in us as we do the power of  
reason, hope, and faith.

Jim