I'm not debating you. I just asked two questions, and you seem to tar everything that comes in conflict with your ideas as liberal and therefore unamerican... Please answer my questions.
---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:35:04 -0700
>From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: actually linda is right
>To: [log in to unmask]
>
> i really don't want to debate gay rights again, but,
>you leap without looking at what all the consequences
>are and you do so at your own periel. there are always
>consequences to every thing that is legislated and
>many times they are un-intended.
>
>--- "Michael H. Collis" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Okay. Ken, how about this? If a male transgendered
>> himself into a female, then got married to a male,
>> would that be okay? that's what happened to an
>> online jewish friend. he met the person he ended up
>> marrying while the person was still male, A year
>> later the transgender process was complete and they
>> got married. Then there are the hermaphrodites.
>> Granted, they make up a very small percentage of the
>> population, but they have both genders. what are we
>> to do with those people?
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>> >Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:12:52 -0700
>> >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
>> >Subject: Re: actually linda is right
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >you would not remove the guard rails that are at
>> the
>> >cliff edges at the grand canyon because of what is
>> >likely to happen.
>> >
>> >you don't ignore the slippery slope that is there
>> >because it is prudent to look at what is likely to
>> >happen.
>> >
>> >nothing to do with morals; everything to do with
>> good
>> >common sense.
>> >
>> >--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Ken,
>> >>
>> >> You know the one thing I learned while I was
>> >> teaching in that
>> >> Christian private school - is those people are
>> very
>> >> sincere in their
>> >> beliefs - and no I never mentioned I am Pagan nor
>> >> argued with one thing
>> >> said. As I said I learned they honestly and
>> >> sincerely believe what they
>> >> believe. And so it is everyone - so why would
>> anyone
>> >> think they would
>> >> bring you around to their way of thinking - we
>> can
>> >> never change anyone's
>> >> mind - they have see beyond the horizon of their
>> >> boundaries - a
>> >> uncomfortable play to be.
>> >>
>> >> I have no problem with gay marriages - if
>> polygamy
>> >> were a voluntary
>> >> state - not a brainwasher slave state - I could
>> >> perhaps see it but for
>> >> the most part since we have no positive role
>> models
>> >> here - it's hard to
>> >> make a judgement on it. I can see jealousy being
>> a
>> >> major factor in it
>> >> not being successful. I really don't think anyone
>> >> backs pedifiles. Of
>> >> course you do have some laws for young marriages.
>> I
>> >> think the thing is
>> >> view each item on its own merits and not lump
>> them
>> >> together because it
>> >> might lead down a slippery slope - blanket
>> >> com=ndemning things - could
>> >> be seen as going down a slippery slope also.
>> >>
>> >> Oooops got to run.....
>> Trisha
>> >> (who is taking her
>> >> Mom shopping)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Cerebral Palsy List
>> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> >> Of ken barber
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:36 PM
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: actually linda is right
>> >>
>> >> actually linda is right on the fact that i do not
>> >> post
>> >> much of controversy direct to the list as much as
>> i
>> >> once did. i am following the advice that i give
>> my
>> >> son
>> >> "choose your fights well and be sure they are
>> worth
>> >> the efford you are going to have to put in them."
>> i
>> >> post many things to about 3 or 4 people who for
>> the
>> >> most part do not agreee with my opinions, but
>> that i
>> >>
>> >> know are not going to attack me for having my
>> >> opinions.
>> >> the last time i posted on an issue like this
>> one,
>> >> it
>> >> was entwined in with a discussion of not only
>> >> polygamy
>> >> but gay rights and other alternative lifestyles.
>> >> when
>> >> i said "many adults wanted sex with children" i
>> was
>> >> accused of "hate speech." after that post i got
>> >> quite
>> >> a load of off list email(from the tolerate
>> liberals
>> >> on
>> >> the list) and if you want to know hate speech you
>> >> should have been able to read a few of those.
>> that
>> >> lead me to post my "i will not be intimidated" by
>> >> this
>> >> tactic email.
>> >> now, since the subject is out here, these
>> people
>> >> are
>> >> Pedophiles. they are like a nest of vermin. you
>> >> attack
>> >> them in one place and they just move to another
>> and
>> >> produce anotherr nest.
>> >> linda's opinion that officials at the mormon
>> >> church
>> >> publicly critisize polygamay while giving it a
>> wink
>> >> and a nod my indeed be true. i can neither
>> confirm
>> >> nor disprove it. i know that the mormons that i
>> >> personally know do not like it. the law
>> enforcement
>> >> and politicos from arizona and utah might could
>> >> have
>> >> given texas a "heads up" if they knew these
>> people
>> >> were in texas. every state has their own law
>> >> enforcement.
>> >> like i said these are Pedophiles. this bunch
>> >> hides
>> >> behind "religion."
>> >> when you talk of pedophiles though, you have
>> to
>> >> go
>> >> after them all. you also talk of the judges who
>> turn
>> >> these convicted beast loose back on the streets
>> (and
>> >> back on our kids) with little or no years in
>> jail.
>> >> you
>> >> talk of the states where a few politicos block
>> >> passage
>> >> of some version of jessica's law in their state.
>> off
>> >> the top of my head i think off Mass. WHERE ONE
>> >> DEMOCRAT POLITICIAN HAS BLOCK A VOTE IN THE
>> >> LEGISLATURE FOR 2 YEARS.
>> >> you can't just get after the dirty old men who
>> want
>> >> young girls, you have to think of older women who
>> >> want
>> >> young boys. i think of one in forida who was "too
>> >> pretty to go to jail."
>> >> there are men who want young boys and women who
>> want
>> >> young girls. they are all pedophiles.
>> >> now i will reap the opinion that got so much
>> heat.
>> >> when you start redefining marriage as something
>> >> different that one woman married to one man to
>> >> accommodate one alternate lifestyle, you are
>> going
>> >> to
>> >> have another group go before some pinhead judge
>> and
>> >> asking "ratify me too." where does it stop once
>> you
>> >> are on the slippery slope?
>> >> if you think this is hate speech and want to
>> email
>> >> me; DON'T BOTHER.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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