They also get to put their nonvisual access seal on the site and collect
legal fees which have not yet been determined.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorene Cornwell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Target and NFB agree to Settlement
There are two parts to the payout. There is a $6million fund for members of
the class from California and then there are payments of $50,000 for the
first
year and $40,000 / year for the rest of the term of the agreement to the
NFB
to analyze and monitor website upgrades and train Target IT staff. There is
some national class action class too but the proposed agreement, the part I
read did not propose any other remedy for that class I do not think besides
the payments to NFB for monitoring. I know that NFB is the party that sued
and
some kind of fees for the services proposed is certainly understandable on
technical grounds. It's not that I want to bash the NFB. It's not
necessarily
that I have any other options to propose, but the question of other options
does wander through my head.
DoreneC
[PS Sure, every time there is one of these lawsuits, the blindness
community
has its equivalent of Crip fights on South Park. On South Park there are
two
little kids in wheelchairs. They HATE each other. Most of the time there is
at most ONE kid in a wheelchair in any scene but very occasionally the two
wheelchair kids get left alone and they always have a knock-down drag-out
grade-school boy fight. The latest NFB/ AFB version of this I saw was the
NFB
statement on the latest court decisions in the AFB currency case. The NFB
position had a few different contradictions about blind people who do handle
currency all the time but how actually accessible currency would still be
nice.]
In a message dated 8/27/2008 6:25:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
And maybe your criticism is politically motivated? A favorite
passtime in the blindness community seems to be throwing rocks at the NFB.
The money is a class action -- it goes to individuals not the NFB.
Dave
At 08:07 PM 8/27/2008, Don Moore wrote:
>In today's climate, many so-called advocacy organizations consider
>financial transactions as an appropriate path to redemption for
>whatever wrongs they accuse a company with deep pockets of.
>
>There have been reports of some civil rights organizations, after
>all, have changed from opposing to supporting issues of companies
>after donations have been made.
>
>There are obviously groups with worse websites, and, from what I
>understand the democrat convention website isn't real accessible
>either, especially if you want to listen to the stream.
>
>Maybe this is practice for a fund raiser that could actually help us
>ultimately with better accessibility. One can but hope.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Dorene Cornwell
>To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Target and NFB agree to Settlement
>
>Anyone want to weigh in on:
>
>--Paying the NFB rather than some other neutral entity to do the
>monitoring?
>
>--The specific technical standards proposed compared to other
>available standards?
>
>--specifying JAWS rather than screen readers in general?
>
>
>In general I think some kind of ongoing monitoring is reasonable
>since people need to modify their websites over time. I am hoping
>someone has a reason to read the tech docs sooner than I will.
>
>I also think the settlement is interesting in that it ducks the
>question around the edges of this suit abotu ADA applicability on
>the web. I am GLAD the suit is settled rather than creating bad
>precedent, but if the point is to make an example, can we expect
>more companies lining up to pay the NFB rather than a neutral body
>to bless their websites too?
>
>What do others think?
>
>DoreneC
>Seattle WA
>
>
>
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