Hi Steve;
Thanks for the info.  How was the band-width on 20 meters?  I believe you 
said you had it up on a push up mast?  How high was the mast?  Did you find 
the swr changed as you turned the antenna?  The miniquad was lots of years 
ago but I vaguely recall that one problem I had was the swr changed 
significantly as I turned the antenna.  At the time I suspected that it was 
because the neighbors house was significantly higher but that was very much 
a guess.
Richard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: mini-beams


Richard,

I'm the guilty party.   Using the MQ 24SR made by TGM

http://www3.sympatico.ca/tgmc/

I had one of the Butterfly beams when  they first came out, but never got it
up and sold it in favor of a Mosley TA 33M.   Like everything from Butternut
it was a  pain to put together and promised to be a double pain to tune.
If I had the support structure here, the Mosley would be up anot the Mini
Quad.

Regarding the radials for the vertical?   The demensions for the  stub tuned
radials can be found on the Bencher site in PDF.  As I remember it was  a
hand drawn diagram and I doubt if a screen reader would  read it.   The twin
lead is notched at various points and  measurements depend on the VF of the
twin lead.  This works as  low as 40 meters, although it can load on 80, but
you should add at least 1  wire for that band, and more is better.   If you
go ground mounted, lengths aren't critical and a lot of short  radials will
do a good job.

73, Steve KW3A


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: mini-beams


> Hi;
> While playing with antenna reviews I was looking at small beams such as
> the
> hf5b.  Has anyone here used one?
> Someone here was using the Canadian version of the old miniquad.  Is it
> still in production and what is the manufacturer and model number?
> Richard
>
>
>